2025/26 David Moyes

How is saying he's a relegation manager and me saying he wont keep us safe a contradiction? He couldn't keep Sunderland up either.

Maybe put your thinking cap on next time?


I supported him, I didn't say I 'loved' him.

I was glad to see him arrive and build a solid foundation for us in dire times. But then he ruined that by trying to project himself as big as this football club (just as if that amoeba could ever be that) and rubbished the fans and protected the worst owner in Everton history.

Didn't you just slate his first 2 seasons with us ?
 
We were in a relegation spot when he came in during March and he out us out of it. Second full season he piled up enough points to get us safe but 17th.

This was a man who positioned himself as a relegation concerned manager: "get to 40 points ASAP". That was his mentality.
This did appear to be his motto back then
 
Will be a very interesting second half of the season. The big change at Everton now is that no one will be able to rest on their laurels. He needs to push the board for

January signings
Assuming TFG have another tranch of cash they care to throw in the pot...and another in July
and if the Friedkins back him

again then they’ll want results. The summer was the fifth highest net spend in the league.
 
His own words: "Let's get to 40 points" - literally every season with us.

Got brought to Sunderland to try and keep them up after flirting with relegation the previous season; ditto West Ham where he was brought into twice when they were facing relegation scraps.

I think that just about satisfies the relegation manager tag.
Over simplified here Davek. While the first aim was to maintain the club as a Premiership team, this was because of the effect financially a relegation would have had on us. What you haven't reflected on was his over achievements at the same time regularly obtaining top half table finishes and even a 4th placed Champions League qualifying finish.

He took West Ham from relegation scrapping to European Qualification to European Trophy winners. That alone smashes your argument.

While he isn't the foreign tactical genius you might crave he has done some unbelievable work for Everton during his tenure on very limited funds. All within a Net spend of approximately 4m per season during that entire time.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good bit of Bah Humbugging.
 
Summer 2017 (just beyond 'the previous 7 summer windows' time space).

iceland £44m
Keane £26m
Pickford £26m
Klassen £24m
Vlasic £9.5m
Onyekuru £7.5m

January
Walcott £20m
Tosun £20m

iceland left on a free under a legal cloud.
Keane still here.
Pickford still here.
Klassen left for £12m a year after signing. A flop.
Vlasic sold to cska for £14m
Onyekuru sold to Monaco for £13m

Walcott left to southampton on a free
Tosun returned to besiktas on a free.

Summer 2017 saw Lukaku, barkley, Deulofeu, Cleverly, Lennon and Barry sold to offset much of the big spending on incoming players.
 
Over simplified here Davek. While the first aim was to maintain the club as a Premiership team, this was because of the effect financially a relegation would have had on us. What you haven't reflected on was his over achievements at the same time regularly obtaining top half table finishes and even a 4th placed Champions League qualifying finish.

He took West Ham from relegation scrapping to European Qualification to European Trophy winners. That alone smashes your argument.

While he isn't the foreign tactical genius you might crave he has done some unbelievable work for Everton during his tenure on very limited funds. All within a Net spend of approximately 4m per season during that entire time.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good bit of Bah Humbugging.

The facts, Mr Gradgrind, are that up until 2009 Moyes and a very handy pot of funds to spend from what came in from sales and a little bit more.

But dont forget: he agreed to go along with Kenwright's fire sale post 2009. No one forced him to and he could have thrown in with fan demands for more investment but didn't fancy it...in fact, he just attacked fans for demanding it.
 

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