2025/26 David Moyes

This is my rapid affinity check list for DM to be congruent on the game fluency

Grealish/ KDH ✅
Grealish/ NDiaye ✅
Grealish/Garner ✅
Grealish/ Barry🟡
Grealish/ Beto 🟡
Grealish/ Mc Neil 🟡
Grealish/Gana 🟡
Grealish/ Tim 🟡
Grealish/ Alcaraz ❌
Grealish/ Mycolenko ❌
Grealish/ Dibling ❓
Grealish Rohl ❓

Barry/NDiaye✅
Barry/ KDH 🟡
Barry/ Garner🟡
Barry/ Tim🟡
Barry /Gana 🟡
Barry/ Beto inexistent in DM brain
Barry/ Mycolenko ❌
Barry/ Alcaraz ❌
Barry/ Mc Neil❌
Barry/ Rohl ❓
Barry/ Dibling?

Beto/ NDiaye ✅
Beto/ Alcaraz ✅
Beto/Garner 🟡
Beto/KDH🟡
Beto/ Mc Neil 🟡
Beto/ Tim 🟡
Beto/Gana🟡
Beto/ Mycolenko 🟡
Beto/ Dibling ❓
Beto/ Rohl ❓

NDiaye/ Alcaraz ✅
NDiaye/ Dibling ✅
NDiaye/ KDH ✅
NDiaye/ Garner✅
NDiaye/ Gana✅
NDiaye/ Tim ✅
NDiaye/ Mycolenko ✅
NDiaye/ Mc Neil 🟡
NDiaye/Rohl ❓

KDH/ Alcaraz ✅ (based on 8/10 spot) other positions 🟡
KDH/ Gana✅
KDH/ Garner ✅
KDH/ Dibling 🟡
KDH/ Tim🟡
KDH/ Mycolenko 🟡
KDH/ Mc Neil 🟡
KDH/ Rohl ❓

Alcaraz/ Dibling ✅
Alcaraz/ Garner ✅
Alcaraz/ Mycolenko ✅
Alcaraz/ Gana ✅
Alcaraz/ Mc Neil 🟡
Alcaraz/ Tim 🟡
Alcaraz/ Rohl ❓

Mc Neil/ Garner ✅
Mc Neil / Gana🟡
Mc Neil/ Mycolenko 🟡
Mc Neil/ Tim🟡
Mc Neil/ Dibling ❓
McNeil/ Rohl❓

Garner/ Dibbling✅
Garner/ Tim ✅
Garner/ Gana✅
Garner/ Mycolenko ✅
Garner Rohl❓

Gana/ Dibling ❓
Gana/ Tim only with DM thinking in septic shock
Gana/ Mycolenko ✅
Gana/Rohl ❓

Mycolenko/ Dibling ❓
Mycolenko/Rohl ❓
Mycolenko/ Tim🟡

Dibling/ Rohl ❓
Dibling/ Tim❓

Tim/Rohl ❓

Yes JOB is missing on this list bc I consider him as CM and would be unfair, idem the others CM as well
This list is only for informational purposes
You can agree or not and that will be fine too
What's the angle of your dangle?
 

Fair, he does say there it's a big, big ask and this was also in June before everyone we tried to sign had told us to do one.

At the moment we are one result away from being in Europe so that's right on track and progressing isn't it?

I don't know why so many are so upset and calling for him to be sacked immediately as if it's a necessity when every sign points to the fact that we are improving and getting better.

No harm in setting that objective. Not sure he genuinely believed it, mind.

As I said, anything bottom half would be a disappointment given spend and our league position the last few seasons.

We've got to be looking to improve and for me that's top half.

It'll be slim margins.
 
We have already improved over Dyche who left us on track for 34 points, so I’m not entirely sure why this argument has been invented in the first place if I’m totally honest with you. It seems to, again, have come from weird Dyche fans who dislike Moyes. Pretty much everyone unanimously agreed at the start of the season that top half was the target, I don’t remember anyone setting the bar at staying up/finishing bottom half. Don’t know why this argument has cropped up after a 1-0 defeat to the league leaders without our 4 best players.
We were on target for 34 points last year but the previous year it was 48 points. Moyes doesn't have to improve upon Dyche's worst season, he needs to be better than Dyche's best season. Otherwise we might as well have kept Dyche.

I think you probably remember how much I loathed Dyche, this isn't some sort of attempt to re-evaluate his time here, at least not from me, but equally excuses shouldn't be made for Moyes that were dismissed for Dyche. We've spent more money under Moyes by a very large margin, have a better squad and I'm told we are now coached better. Cool. I'm here for that. As I've said we're marginally ahead of target this season so far and that's great. Let's see the results, let's see the finish at the end of the season.

All I'm saying is that injuries weren't an acceptable excuse for Dyche on this forum for most (including me), neither was the quality of the squad, neither was the transfer budget. All I'm asking is that Moyes is held to that standard too. Standards are moveable for some posters on here.
 
Could you give us the headlines of his successful squad building at:

United
Sunderland
Sociedad
West Ham

Cos it seems like he wasted hundreds of millions on quick fix short term solutions which mostly failed.
He wasn’t at United long enough to make more than a couple of signings and Sunderland were rooked. He wasn’t allowed to sign players at Sociedad - he was the coach.

At West Ham he is literally their most successful manager in decades and won them a cup. He is their best league manager of all time.
 

Hilarious.

Acknowledges we spent a club record last summer, representing investment of more than combined 7 seasons before it - before Grealish/Rohl - but apparently we can't expect progress on the last few seasons from a team the manager set an objective of Europe.

We've gone from Dyche and having to make big profits every summer to Moyes and club record spend but God forbid we expect progress on 12th.

If you don't improve after big investment, fingers have to be pointed.
It'd help to acknowledge over £60M of player we'd paid out for walked for nothing or almost nothing in that very same summer window as well. Including a striker we'd taken a chance on for £1.5M and improved and allegedly turned down big offers for that we'd had promoted to full England international.

There's a few ways of slicing the facts.
 
This. Apologies if I am blunt and dismissive but I'm fed up of the idiotic narrative that gets served up in relation to Moyes on a daily basis. It's completely counterfactual. He obviously has faults and makes mistakes but the criticism of him is way over the top and from those with a permanent preconceived agenda against him. None of the managers who took charge since Moyes have better records despite most of them having spent significantly more than Moyes. Any evidence which goes against the agenda is dismissed and goal posts are moved
This is just basically Moyes is better than a load of poor managers who came after him, so we should be happy we have him. The guy isn't a great manager and his record of 2 trophies in a quarter of a century of managing bears this out, as does the season he bombed out at Man Utd. He's not going to win us a trophy and he ain't getting us back into the top 4 even if he's here for another 5 years. His recruitment when he has money to spend sucks. So frankly, what's the point in sticking with him past the summer?
 
Nonsense.

The direct comparison is to Everton, and our previous seasons.

Last summer we spent a club record amount.

Last summer we spent more than the previous 7 years combined. Thats without Grealish factored in, or a £17m obligation for Rohl.

With that comes expectation of some progress.

A better team, a better squad needs to do better. Otherwise, what's the point?

It currently is. Anything bottom half would be a disappointment considering 12th the season before last and 13th last.


It was a wake up call, so it should also be a learning curve for future targets.
 
Ah yes, anything that the PTSD Moyes Comfy Cardigan Brigade find uncomfortable is "foolish". Moyes failed miserably to attract the players he actually wanted in the summer. Why is that? It's not merely the old "Everton have been crap for too long" argument - which comfortably forgets that Moyes has been our manager for almost precisely half of the 30 years we have been trophyless. It's that David Moyes is a certain type of manager: one with little to no reputation outside this country and who is best known for being a disastrous Manchester United manager.

It's only a few years since Carlo Ancelotti managed this club. Proof positive that higher tier managers than Moyes are gettable - unlike many of the players he batted his eyelashes at this summer. Grealish - in demand nowhere else - is the exception that proves the rule.

And yes, I do have a very high bar. Mediocrity Moyes doesn't cut it.

Im more than fine with Moyes steadying the ship this and next season.

No problem with him at all.

However, we need to be building a new young team. Those players need games and to improve and yet we are seeing the absolute opposite.

The truth was that Moyes first went after a number of senior pros who all rejected him apart from KDH & Grealish who were unwanted at their clubs.

The FC Moyes lovers like to ignore this.

If he cant attract, develop and play top young players then he wont give us that super new squad to get us to the top.

He'll blow £300mil like at West Ham on mostly senior players and leave us holding the bag.

Would that be the same Iraola languishing in 14th place? The latest flavour of the month, a bit like Thomas Frank.

Only 2
Points behind us and the lost 3 of thier back 4 in the summer. Summer before lost their number 9 and went on finish 9th. It’s also how they play and the end of the day Bournemouth is a very small club. How
Many times will the finish higher than 9th in the next 30yrs?

That has to be the most daft comparison with Moyes ive seen in a long time.

Iraola a manager who gets young players up to the premier league and the club makes fortunes on them.

Imagine if Everton were able to sign those same young players, develop them...but keep them rather than sell.

Thats how you build winning squads. With an Iraola who shows flashes of SAF in his player development and bravery.

He didn’t build the current squad though. Moyes wanted McTominay and Maguire and they got him JWP, Alvarez and Mavropanos.

Their current squad is a Frankenstein’s monster of a few Moyes stalwarts along with Steidten, Sullivan, Potter and Lopetegui picks.

If you think Moyes didnt sign off on every single transfer then sorry to say you are off your nut.

Its Moyes modus operandi to have full control on transfers. Why else has every other DOF been binned off under him.

He rejected Morgan Rogers and signed Kalvin Phillips.

If that doesnt summarise David Moyes in the transfer market i dont know what does.
 
We were on target for 34 points last year but the previous year it was 48 points. Moyes doesn't have to improve upon Dyche's worst season, he needs to be better than Dyche's best season. Otherwise we might as well have kept Dyche.

I think you probably remember how much I loathed Dyche, this isn't some sort of attempt to re-evaluate his time here, at least not from me, but equally excuses shouldn't be made for Moyes that were dismissed for Dyche. We've spent more money under Moyes by a very large margin, have a better squad and I'm told we are now coached better. Cool. I'm here for that. As I've said we're marginally ahead of target this season so far and that's great. Let's see the results, let's see the finish at the end of the season.

All I'm saying is that injuries weren't an acceptable excuse for Dyche on this forum for most (including me), neither was the quality of the squad, neither was the transfer budget. All I'm asking is that Moyes is held to that standard too. Standards are moveable for some posters on here.

Dyche was never robbed of his 4 best players at the same time, not once. But anyway, I’m expecting us to have them available for the second half of the season so in that instance, yes, I have no doubt we will finish top half and if we don’t it’s been a failure.
 

No harm in setting that objective. Not sure he genuinely believed it, mind.

As I said, anything bottom half would be a disappointment given spend and our league position the last few seasons.

We've got to be looking to improve and for me that's top half.

It'll be slim margins.
Without trying to sound like making excuses in advance for Moyes, in recent years there's been 5-6 points between 8th and 15th. A season of slim margins for sure. I hope it gives the manager and team motivation to treat every game against other teams in this area of the table as hugely important points to pick up, 3 points unfancied could be the difference between what fans see as success or failure.
 
Im more than fine with Moyes steadying the ship this and next season.

No problem with him at all.

However, we need to be building a new young team. Those players need games and to improve and yet we are seeing the absolute opposite.

The truth was that Moyes first went after a number of senior pros who all rejected him apart from KDH & Grealish who were unwanted at their clubs.

The FC Moyes lovers like to ignore this.

If he cant attract, develop and play top young players then he wont give us that super new squad to get us to the top.

He'll blow £300mil like at West Ham on mostly senior players and leave us holding the bag.





That has to be the most daft comparison with Moyes ive seen in a long time.

Iraola a manager who gets young players up to the premier league and the club makes fortunes on them.

Imagine if Everton were able to sign those same young players, develop them...but keep them rather than sell.

Thats how you build winning squads. With an Iraola who shows flashes of SAF in his player development and bravery.



If you think Moyes didnt sign off on every single transfer then sorry to say you are off your nut.

Its Moyes modus operandi to have full control on transfers. Why else has every other DOF been binned off under him.

He rejected Morgan Rogers and signed Kalvin Phillips.

If that doesnt summarise David Moyes in the transfer market i dont know what does.
Mate, look it up. Moyes and Steidten were almost coming to blows and Moyes almost walked out on the club.

Edit - to make it easier:

 
It'd help to acknowledge over £60M of player we'd paid out for walked for nothing or almost nothing in that very same summer window as well. Including a striker we'd taken a chance on for £1.5M and improved and allegedly turned down big offers for that we'd had promoted to full England international.

There's a few ways of slicing the facts.

We could have kept that player if we wanted to.

That player was also absolutely slated by most/the fan base largely wanted him gone.

It's not like when we HAD to sell Richarlison, Iwobi, Gordon etc.

We're in a much better place now, we can make the decisions we want as a club, like refusing to sell Braithwaite and NDiaye in the summer and with that, we should expect progress.
 

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