2025/26 David Moyes

[Chegsy]

We can change the manager every season but it won't make a difference until we get the recruitment right. We messed up in the summer by not bringing in a ready to go RB and LB. The lack of attacking threat from Mykolenko & O'Brien is killing the team.

Both Spurs and Newcastle doubled up on our wingers and we become so easy to play against. We are essentially having to give the ball to Grealish and Ndiaye and hope they do something spectacular on their own.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

We can change the manager every season but it won't make a difference until we get the recruitment right. We messed up in the summer by not bringing in a ready to go RB and LB. The lack of attacking threat from Mykolenko & O'Brien is killing the team.

Both Spurs and Newcastle doubled up on our wingers and we become so easy to play against. We are essentially having to give the ball to Grealish and Ndiaye and hope they do something spectacular on their own.

Give Grealish a Baines or a Digne and we'd be a totally different beast.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Looks like you found Moyes’ teamtalk…

Glass half empty - Moyes honesty?
Glass half full - martinez deranged over enthusiasm and positivity in the face of getting battered?

 

[Houghty19]

A spoon to a gunfight.

If that's his take on where we are he needs to be booted as soon as possible, what a mentality to have FFS. Make no mistake if we turn up and do the job that the players can do with the correct tactics rather than a dithering manager waiting till halftime to change anything we would be turning them over at home. To dress that performance up in that way is a disgrace.

 

[ToffeeScot]

The league and game is very different now to when he was in charge the first time around. The competition in the mid-pack is so stiff and it takes someone more innovative and ultimately a better manager to punch above their weight. Iraola and Glasner are doing that at Palace/Bournemouth and Brighton/Brentford are doing that as clubs. All of them sit in the bottom 6 of the wage bill in the league but are in the top half of the table and Palace of course won that FA Cup.

 

[Chegsy]

Give Grealish a Baines or a Digne and we'd be a totally different beast.

100%

I would love to see the team with say a Baines type left back and even just Tete who we wanted at right back. Completely different team.

 

[Curtis]

I think it was always Moyes more than Kenwright. Always thought that.

Soon as Moyes left, Kenwright was throwing Martinez under a bus a bit by declaring Martinez promised him Champions League. How was that for expectation management?

I completely completely concur , Kenwright was a delusional romanticist who always sold a dream even though he never provided the conditions to regularly achieve that vision, even when we didn't reach lofty heights as champions League he would brand any achievement such as finishing seventh as some incredible feat such as the magnificent seventh dvd . Moyes was always the grounded pragmatist

 

[Drico]

I think it was always Moyes more than Kenwright. Always thought that.

Soon as Moyes left, Kenwright was throwing Martinez under a bus a bit by declaring Martinez promised him Champions League. How was that for expectation management?

Perhaps, but Kenwright was key because he had a symbiotic relationship with Moyes (and, by the way, he was still declaring "What a manager!" when Martinez was 11th). Kenwright was both the protector and charge of Moyes. He never got so lucky as he did when Walter Smith recommended Moyes. He depended on Moyes working minor miracles with next to zero financial backing. It kept the heat well off him and Moyes's relative success ensured the longevity of his ownership without having to find the type of financial backing our peers had. Moyes could get away with six or seven games without a win knowing full well Kenwright couldn't afford to sack him. Kenwright got away with minimal investment knowing full well Moyes would eventually dig him out of a hole.

This is why Moyes's return depressed me. We can never move on from that culture as long as Moyes remains at the club. His comments last night show that culture is still thriving. All that remains now is to see if the new owners are comfortable with that. Up to now, there has been little indication that they are not...

 

[Davideeyore]

His comm

I’d be incredibly disappointed if he’s still Everton manager going into next season.

Me too.

Don't get me wrong I wanted Moyes back. And Monday gave us all a bit of a heartwarming uplift.

This against Newcastle and Moyes's comment is more than a Gueye slap in the face. It's a put down. I don't like that.

Had enough of it from the likes of Dyche. TFG should be trying to elevate us.

 

[gazzaa2]

A spoon to a gunfight.

Out of the 6 teams in the Champions League this season we only lost to one of them last season at home, without playing great, in a very mediocre season.

Traditionally we've always got results against the big teams at Goodison. We've played two at the new ground and been hammered (3-0 Spurs, 4-1 Newcastle). Maybe Villa as well if you throw in the 0-0 when they were having a nightmare start. We don't want to accept that as normal.

 

[Clarky cat]

Glass half empty - Moyes honesty?
Glass half full - martinez deranged over enthusiasm and positivity in the face of getting battered?

Moyes is what he is, he’s not for changing. If Moyes was brutally honest the first words out of his mouth should have been that he got it wrong and had failed to prepare the team properly. His comments after the game were really daft yesterday and showed as much bravery and responsibility as his players on the pitch, coincidence? Why are we setting up as a team with Gana in it if he’s suspended and no other player can do what he does?
Granted, I don’t miss the word “phenomenal” after we’ve just been spanked but brown shoes might just be a better looking going forward than brown trousers.

 

[Drico]

We can change the manager every season but it won't make a difference until we get the recruitment right. We messed up in the summer by not bringing in a ready to go RB and LB. The lack of attacking threat from Mykolenko & O'Brien is killing the team.

Both Spurs and Newcastle doubled up on our wingers and we become so easy to play against. We are essentially having to give the ball to Grealish and Ndiaye and hope they do something spectacular on their own.

When the manager is a major part of that failing recruitment, however, then changing him is not the outre idea that some posit.

Sacking managers is not the problem. Appointing them has been our achilles.

 

[Rita_Poon]

then setup accordingly.

Moyes goes backs to the wall defend at all costs and hope for a dead ball situation to attack and that stadium turns.

"We got rid of Dyche for doing exactly this!"

Worst thing to ever happen to Moyes was Moyes, to many agendas based on a net spend of £4m was it during his first tenure? and the memory of disappointment holds firmest. It's all so predictable. Ancelotti got pragmatic towards the end of his spell, the greatest club manager in history by a distance, and even he couldn't magic away the hoodoo.

 

[Rudolf Hucker]

Moyes showing his colours. Knifes to a gunfight…..

Hopefully gone at the end of the season, if not before.

 

[Toffeeforme]

Here he is with his knife to gunfight [Poor language removed] again. Lowering the expectations, to say we're not at the same level is treason. Even if true. The fact is if the team had not been so full of themselves for beatings a [Poor language removed] united then we may of stood a chance. Moyes referred to people thinking we could just show up then says we're not at their level. Newcastle just scraped into 4th last season and this season will end up mid table.