2025/26 David Moyes

Staying still effectively means getting left further behind because there’s 10-12 progressive Clubs in this league who will keep spending, keep building, keep strengthening and leaving us for dust.

We haven't had chance to find out if we are standing still yet. Perhaps in the summer we may be able to call it if we finish with less points, even then surely we have to see who comes into the club to gauge are we getting stronger. Is he attracting the right players to improve the results?

No one is saying keep Moyes regardless, there has to be year on year progress. It just probably won't be as fast as we would like and there will be the usual limitations that make you want to bang your head at times...

It's just funny to me the names that have been banded around over the years like Frank and Potter haven't turned out to be magic bullets. The current flavours of month imo would be much the same.
 

Only issue is we had a history of chopping and changing managers and every 2nd season we were flirting right down at the foot of the table.

I'm suggesting we learn to walk before we can run, each season we will improve the quality of squad because Moyes will take us in that direction. That leads to a far stronger foundation for the next person, so hopefully even the 'wrong' manager would still have us in a reasonable position. Take the training wheels off next summer and we could find ourselves flat on our arses. Ask West Ham how that is going for them.



I wouldn't use CP as a valid comparison mate, they don't have the pressure or baggage that exists here. They also had a very good side, where we only have the beginnings of one. Not to say Glassner couldn't do a good job here, but let's give the new bloke half a chance to succeed.

If Moyes flatlines then fair enough we need to look to replace, whilst we continue to see progress on the pitch, it's better he stays.
Think it’s a valid comparison myself. They were five points off relegation zone when he was appointed and he’s had a net spend of -£37 million since he’s been there.
 

I say that because Moyes is generally good at home and at anyone away, bar Arsenal, Chelsea, City, RS, Utd and even Spurs.

We need a period of stability, a manager who can get us fighting for the top 8, so we can build and improve the playing squad. We try and change now and get it wrong, we could be back to where we were. The players we have aren't that good at the moment. So despite the age old problem Moyes has, I'd rather 3 years of this than a relegation battle.

3 years of what?

Splashing out £150mil a summer without a plan?

Slowing down our effective playing style?

I dont even know what "this" is?

Meanwhile Glassner has saved Palace from relegation, won the FA cup and got Palace challenging for top 4. In short we are wasting our time with a second rate manager.

Hard to tell with managers who comes in and performs, sometimes even the top ones dont 'click' at clubs.

Moyes has to show the fans that hes got the future mapped out by using the likes of Dibling and making moves in the transfer market that make the summer window make some sense.

I don't think Ancelotti is a good fit personally as he works best with elite players and he's not much of a developer of youth talent and it looks like that's our strategy going forward judging by the summer purchases

What about the summer looked like were planning to sign young players to develop?

A cheap punt on Aznou at £8mil doesnt really say much when we spent £4mil on a poor backup keeper.

£35mil+ on Dibling was the one off sensible u21 signing we made. We needed to sign 3 players of his age/quality at RW, CM and RB and we only got 1 of them.

The rest of the money went on Rohl, Alcaraz, KDH, Travers, Barry, King and Grealish.

A total mishmash of players and a total lack of strategy.


If that's the plan then we have the wrong guy in charge now though. There is zero point in the youth development thing unless you have a head coach in charge (not a manager type) It needs to be someone whos focus is the training ground and the development of players and team tactics. Also a good compliment of backroom staff who can offer specialized support in different areas, we currently have a small backroom team and the likes of Irvine are even older than Moyes!

Tricky thing is to narrow down to 3 managers who can build a squad based on youth and a few older heads.

Sometimes managers just dont click at another club. Who would be on your wishlist to take over in the summer?

Spot on. I know that Armstrong’s agent was keen to get him on loan because of Moyes, and will have no hesitation moving him on in the summer if Moyes isn’t going to get him in the first team.

Because of Moyes saying something or because of Moyes reputation?

In my opinion we’re only going to move forward when we’ve got a top class DOF in who’s clear on the way he wants to play and is actually allowed to appoint the managers. Binning that system off because Moyes demanded it and putting him in charge seems like a fundamentally backwards move to me. So from my view the first thing we need to do is part company with Moyes in the summer and start properly.

Definitely need a top DOF. Cant have Moyes signing players again.

£150mil blown and a lot of work needed over the season to make the majority of the signings look worth it.

Armstrong is a young lad, with a grounded mentality. He is also contracted to us and is getting the right approach with that loan.

He isn't a little kid that will get sucked under the wings of an agent.

We hold the cards with him, he's looking a happy lad in what's going on with his game.

If he comes back with the progress he's making and gets overlooked cos of age, their will only be one person walking out that door.

You reckon Moyes goes before Armstrong if it went head to head?

Cant see it at all.
 
Get him in a room and rattle his head ,he needs to change .If we go ahead of them tonight all will be forgotten by 98% but not by me .As said above he has virtually achieved nothing in the amount of games he has managed and been booted out by most -not by us ,he just fleeced us ,good manager my rear end.
 

Get him in a room and rattle his head ,he needs to change .If we go ahead of them tonight all will be forgotten by 98% but not by me .As said above he has virtually achieved nothing in the amount of games he has managed and been booted out by most -not by us ,he just fleeced us ,good manager my rear end.

"Even if you win away at United and overtake both them and Liverpool I still won't give you any positive feedback".

Aren't you a decent fan.
 
And BKs happy clappers are still amongst us… accept what you have and be grateful..

….i’d hope/think the BK supporters were few and far between, he has his place in our history and hopefully we have shifted in the right direction.

As for ‘accept what you have and be grateful’, I’m in the Moyes short-term camp strategy so will be happy for that to play out until his contract is up. No doubt things improved for his appointment, a period of stability moving to the new stadium after years of turmoil. I’d be sure next season will be his last unless we seriously get dragged into a dog-fight at the bottom.

Poor transfer window for me & a strange league this season, we’re in that area of being close to the bottom three as we are to the top 4.
 

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