2025/26 David Moyes

[blueboy72]

Thought you all might turn on him eventually.

All it took was two defeats.

I got you Davey.

*Rolls up sleeves!

Didn’t you regularly stick up for dyche ?
My apologies if it wasn’t you, but I think it was

I’m not turning on him after defeats, I didn’t want him back full stop
What we’re seeing now wont go away, he’s getting schooled by younger managers, same players, same tactics, same subs. It’s boring

And his press conferences, he Thinks we play well every week. Gets questioned about his subs. “ pep doesn’t make a lot of subs” questioned about set pieces “ all
Managers are working on set pieces” I couldn’t care less about Pep or the other manangers. I only care about Everton and he’s one of the highest paid managers in the league. I’d be amazed if he gets another contract, personally I think he will be gone next summer

 

[blueboy72]

There isn’t any serious chatter of sacking Moyes, don’t be silly.

Bill ain’t in charge anymore.
I don’t think it will happen anytime soon. But 1 win in 7 and if this slump continues into
January he will be under massive pressure. TFG/Kinnear etc don’t care a jot what he did here 15yrs ago

 

[MACCA75]

We've made our bed for this season. No pace, no attack from the full backs,it if they do attack the opposition let them because they know they can't cross or shoot. Two ageing centre halves meaning we can't press the opposition properly. Central midfielders who rarely run past the strikers to create space. When you have those limitations you need a manager who can organise a team and make it hard to beat, and Moyes is definitely one of those. It'll never be exciting, but until we recruit the players who can change the way we play we're stuck with it. The alternative this season could well be relegation, and at this point that would be a big backwards step considering we can't attract players in our current situation.

Yep. The forum is full of talk about the deficiencies in the squad - everyone knows what they are, and you have just outlined them.

And then the same people talk about sneaking into Europe. Aint happening with this squad lads, regardless of the manager.

 

[blueboy72]

Yep. The forum is full of talk about the deficiencies in the squad - everyone knows what they are, and you have just outlined them.

And then the same people talk about sneaking into Europe. Aint happening with this squad lads, regardless of the manager.

So the manager gets a free pass? . Go back 18 months and plenty on here were saying , what can dyche do we have the worst squad in the league. I used to listen to a pod , not anymore with Tony Scott, O’keefe and a guy called Jez. Jez wouldn’t constantly stick up for dyche, because according to him we had a championship squad, so 17th was a job well done.

We have never appointed a manager from abroad who’s never managed in the prem before. We hardly ever appoint young managers, silva was about 40.
We all here about we need to be like Brighton or Bournemouth or a Brentford, well you won’t be like them teams or go done the same path appointing the likes of dyche and Moyes

 

[murphy89]

Some insane shouts on here. Got the amount of points I’d expect for the team we have and the teams we’ve played.

Will be plenty of ups and downs during the season and will finish midtable.

The team and club as a whole needs some stability as it’s rebuilt. Need a bit of patience.

 

[MACCA75]

So the manager gets a free pass? . Go back 18 months and plenty on here were saying , what can dyche do we have the worst squad in the league. I used to listen to a pod , not anymore with Tony Scott, O’keefe and a guy called Jez. Jez wouldn’t constantly stick up for dyche, because according to him we had a championship squad, so 17th was a job well done.

We have never appointed a manager from abroad who’s never managed in the prem before. We hardly ever appoint young managers, silva was about 40.
We all here about we need to be like Brighton or Bournemouth or a Brentford, well you won’t be like them teams or go done the same path appointing the likes of dyche and Moyes

Oh I think we should appoint a much more progressive manager in the summer and sign some players that actually fit into the modern way of playing..

But right now that isn’t happening.,

 

[blueboy72]

Some insane shouts on here. Got the amount of points I’d expect for the team we have and the teams we’ve played.

Will be plenty of ups and downs during the season and will finish midtable.

The team and club as a whole needs some stability as it’s rebuilt. Need a bit of patience.

But Moyes ain’t the right man for a rebuild , he’s was available in January and that probably was one of the main reasons he was appointed.

He’s not interested in giving youngsters time, he’s not interested in playing them either, if he’s here next summer, he again will only be interested in 27/28/29 yr olds, who can come in and hopefully hit the ground running. But we end buying 2nd rate players of that age because he better ones, won’t want to come or will cost to much.

You talk about a rebuild and patience, well then surely you realise Moyes isn’t the man to do that.

We need a manager who will play the young players and will want to build a young exciting side, which will take time

 

[Blue Neon]

These next two games are crucial as I know he's going to play all timid for a draw against a revitalized united who always do pretty well against us.

United will be a true test. Almost certainly wave after wave pressure from them.

 

[davids]

We've made our bed for this season. No pace, no attack from the full backs,it if they do attack the opposition let them because they know they can't cross or shoot. Two ageing centre halves meaning we can't press the opposition properly. Central midfielders who rarely run past the strikers to create space. When you have those limitations you need a manager who can organise a team and make it hard to beat, and Moyes is definitely one of those. It'll never be exciting, but until we recruit the players who can change the way we play we're stuck with it. The alternative this season could well be relegation, and at this point that would be a big backwards step considering we can't attract players in our current situation.

Thing is we aren't keeping many clean sheets.

 

[hallamblue]

But Moyes ain’t the right man for a rebuild , he’s was available in January and that probably was one of the main reasons he was appointed.

He’s not interested in giving youngsters time, he’s not interested in playing them either, if he’s here next summer, he again will only be interested in 27/28/29 yr olds, who can come in and hopefully hit the ground running. But we end buying 2nd rate players of that age because he better ones, won’t want to come or will cost to much.

You talk about a rebuild and patience, well then surely you realise Moyes isn’t the man to do that.

We need a manager who will play the young players and will want to build a young exciting side, which will take time

If you played our current young players I don't think you'd like the results. If we can get Branthwaite back in the New Year and buy or loan 2 attacking full backs and a decent number 9 who can hold the ball up there's a chance we could move our style of play forward. Until then we're very much back to how we were under Ancelotti, having to sit fairly deep and not over commit and hope to nick a goal or two. I just hope Wolves and West Ham don't improve, because if they do things are going to get interesting for about 8 teams, and we are one of them.

 

[hallamblue]

Thing is we aren't keeping many clean sheets.

We're going to lose a fair number of games. What we need to do is not lose to Wolves, West Ham, Burnley, Leeds (bit late for that one), Forest and Fulham.

 

[davids]

We're going to lose a fair number of games. What we need to do is not lose to Wolves, West Ham, Burnley, Leeds (bit late for that one), Forest and Fulham.

Very true,but depressing.

 

[hetion]

But Moyes ain’t the right man for a rebuild , he’s was available in January and that probably was one of the main reasons he was appointed.

He’s not interested in giving youngsters time, he’s not interested in playing them either, if he’s here next summer, he again will only be interested in 27/28/29 yr olds, who can come in and hopefully hit the ground running. But we end buying 2nd rate players of that age because he better ones, won’t want to come or will cost to much.

You talk about a rebuild and patience, well then surely you realise Moyes isn’t the man to do that.

We need a manager who will play the young players and will want to build a young exciting side, which will take time

This is correct really. I think its fair to say he was the right manager to come in halfway through last season, stabilise the club and be a safe pair of hands during this initial period of transition who you know at least won't be a disaster. Don't have any problem with that appointment at that time.

I think it's pretty impossible to argue he's the right man for the future of taking this club to the next level, though. For the reasons you say about recruitment and also just his ceiling as a manager. That's not really a dig at him, I don't think people appreciate how hard it is to be a competent premier league manager over a nearly 25 year period - there's a reason there's hardly anyone else in that category. But is he an Iraola/Glasner/Pochettino/Klopp type who can kick a club up to a whole new level? Fairly clearly not.

So the question then becomes when do Angus and co feel the time is right for the change? My hope is they're already hard at work drawing up a shortlist in time for an amicable changing of the guard at the end of the season. Planned succession so the new manager has the whole summer to bed in. It would work so much better than waiting til Moyes 'has' to be sacked, bringing in whoever's available and starting that cycle all over again.

 

[Nymzee]

Well they are definitely concerns I have, yes. No idea if there’s a manager out there realistically that could actually unite this fanbase. It’s very possibly too far gone, with the battle lines already drawn and sides already picked. What I do know, is that keeping Moyes forever isn’t going to resolve it.

No one is saying this though.

 

[TrachyBlue]

Too much of the fan base have been brought up or gotten used to binning the manager every time, they don’t get a flake in their cone.

It’s never been our way.

We’ve just come out of close to a decade, binning managers every year, wasting countless millions summer after summer, from manager to manager, that almost brought the club to oblivion and have become a joke club because of it. With recovery (and this is part of it) only begining.

How anyone can say doing that whole dance again is the answer - just defies basic functional reasoning (not you mate). It’s like the last 9 years haven’t happened.

We’ve lost two games and the old dysfunctional patterns reemerge.

No.

Correct, but Moyes has shown us who he is for years. He's a known entity and he is mediocre at best. More often than not he has proved himself to not be good enough for our club.