Blast_of_Cannock
Player Valuation: £25m
I see the thread I created for him to use has been totally ignored. I don't know why I bother...
Hinchcliffe's Corner
Player Valuation: £50m
Merry Xmas Gaffer <3
He looks like Lutenant Dan after Vietnam
Haha nice post. Got me thinking, if I had to name a player who sums up Moyes as a manager, who would it be? Probably Phil Neville, a close second would be Tony Hibbert. A solid professional, not quite good enough & boring to watch.In honour of the page number - and by way of Christmas Day diversion…
Me: What similarities are there between David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche?
GPT answers…
At first glance, David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche inhabit completely different worlds—but there are some surprisingly neat parallels if you squint a little (and lean into analogy rather than biography):
1. Relentless pragmatists
Both are archetypes of engineering over romance.
- Moyes: structure, fitness, discipline, repeatable patterns. Not about flair-first football, but about systems that survive bad weather and injuries.
- Porsche: obsessed with mechanical efficiency and function. His cars were solutions to engineering problems, not stylistic statements.
In both cases: form follows function.
2. Long-term thinkers, not trend-chasers
Neither was especially interested in what was fashionable.
- Moyes never chased tiki-taka or gegenpressing because Twitter demanded it.
- Porsche ignored luxury ornamentation and focused on drivetrain, weight, and reliability.
Both preferred durable fundamentals over short-lived innovations.
3. Reputation lagged behind results
A shared theme of being underrated during their prime.
- Moyes often framed as “uninspiring” despite sustained overperformance with limited resources.
- Porsche’s early genius wasn’t universally celebrated at the time; his influence became clearer in hindsight through the dominance of Porsche engineering philosophy.
They aged well—reputational compound interest.
4. Builders, not performers
Neither man is the face of glamour.
- Moyes builds squads, cultures, habits.
- Porsche built platforms, layouts, mechanical DNA.
Others came later and added polish—but the core architecture was theirs.
5. Enduring legacy through robustness
What they leave behind lasts.
Longevity through conservatism done correctly.
- Moyes teams are rarely chaotic or fragile.
- Porsche’s engineering principles still underpin modern performance cars.
Where the analogy breaks
- Porsche was a radical technical innovator in his domain; Moyes is more evolutionary than revolutionary.
- Porsche’s legacy is inseparable from darker historical contexts; Moyes’ legacy is… Everton, West Ham, and mild pundit slander.
TL;DR
If football managers were cars:
- Moyes is rear-engined, over-engineered, unfashionable, and weirdly hard to kill.
- Ferdinand Porsche would probably approve.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Osman.
The Christmas armistice is over.
Load yer guns folks
Load yer guns folks
dave lives in a tent hidden in bushes outside FF with his sniper
waiting… till what game he decides he’s had enough
I did consider Osman, but then I remembered this goal he scored to win the FA youth cup and thought nah!
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Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Hibbert, Neville, Osman, kilbane.
Baines, Arteta, Cahil, Pienaar.
If the fist 4 are "So called" Moyes players.
You have to to replicate it with the next 4.
Yeah it was a cracker, I went to that match and took my two young lads. We played some great footy that night. I was listening to Michael Ball at a recent book signing and he said that he thought some more of the lads from that team could have come through if Everton hadn't of appointed Walter Smith.
I don't have to do anything mate, it was just a bit of fun
tbf we didn't do too bad from that batch did we who played over those 2 legs
Dunne
Osman
Cadamateri
Jeffers
Hibbert
+ Jevons had a very good career.
I don't have to do anything mate, it was just a bit of fun
Ofcourse you dont have to, but you should..
