2025/26 David Moyes

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They make money by the value of Everton increasing through European participation and increased sponsorship deals that come with higher league placing and trophy wins. If they wanted to finish 12th they wouldn’t have given us over 100 mill last summer surely?

I think the £150mil spent in the summer was a necessity.

The proof in the pudding will be in January and the summer where another £150mil needs spending.
 
I do love how many posters have taken on this self-appointed role of explaining what the Friedkin's expectations are to the rest of us who aren't privy to their inner thoughts.

Theres a gaggle of Friedkin experts in this thread eager to tell us what the Friedkin's will or won't accept and it all comes across as their own fantasy.

I know they wont accept a Hyundai.
 
  • On the reports that Dwight McNeil might leave in January, Moyes said: "I don't know where that's come from. As the manager of this football club, I haven't heard anything about it. There is no plan for it. I don't really want to lose anybody."
What else is he going to say, they were open to selling him in the summer, that wouldn’t have changed
 
The proof will be in the pudding. If you think these billionaires are going to renew the managers contract if he finishes in the bottom half without a meaningful cup run because they’ve not publicly come out and told you otherwise then you can cling to that.

You’re living in the Kenwright era
A nice way of saying I've been chatting out my backside and don't actually have anything to back it up. Maybe wait until whatever happens, happens then instead of acting the authority in the meantime.
 
A nice way of saying I've been chatting out my backside and don't actually have anything to back it up. Maybe wait until whatever happens, happens then instead of acting the authority in the meantime.

I’m not sure what your problem is. It’s a forum for opinions. I’ve given mine. I don’t think a bunch of billionaires will accept bottom half finishes considering the amount of money they’ve invested here. It’s not the wildest opinion in the world. If you don’t agree that’s fine.

Your argument of ‘they’ve not explicitly told me that they’re going to do x therefore you’ve got no proof x is going to happen’ belongs on a playground. You’ve equally got no proof it’s not going to happen.
 
I’m not sure what your problem is. It’s a forum for opinions. I’ve given mine. I don’t think a bunch of billionaires will accept bottom half finishes considering the amount of money they’ve invested here. It’s not the wildest opinion in the world. If you don’t agree that’s fine.

Your argument of ‘they’ve not explicitly told me that they’re going to do x therefore you’ve got no proof x is going to happen’ belongs on a playground. You’ve equally got no proof it’s not going to happen.
It's tiring reading you and other's dictating what the Friedkin's minimum expectations are as if you have a clue what they would find acceptable or not. It's mostly just wishful thinking from the lot of you and you keep repeating these statements as if they aren't your opinions but facts.

"The big change at Everton now is that no one will be able to rest on their laurels. He needs to push the board for January signings and if the Friedkins back him again then they’ll want results" is missing a big "just in my opinion, I don't actually have a clue what the Friedkin's think" after it.

I've no proof its not going to happen but I'm not the one going out of my way to make up and assign Moyes imaginary performance targets.
 
Aren't most PL clubs owned by billionaires ? TFG will do so much but will be difficult for them to outrun the cashflows 7 or 8 other clubs are consistently generating irrelevant of success. I don't see these guys as some kind of modern Jack Walker. There'll be a figure they have where they say "No" and I'd wager it'll continue to be lower than the owners of the usual suspects.
 
The proof will be in the pudding. If you think these billionaires are going to renew the managers contract if he finishes in the bottom half without a meaningful cup run because they’ve not publicly come out and told you otherwise then you can cling to that.

You’re living in the Kenwright era

A lot of blues are still living in the kenwight era, the press and image the club has is definitely stuck there.
Reading the ndaiye thread the general consensus seems to be in that mindset.

The stench of the man won't go away anytime soon unfortunately
 
It's tiring reading you and other's dictating what the Friedkin's minimum expectations are as if you have a clue what they would find acceptable or not. It's mostly just wishful thinking from the lot of you and you keep repeating these statements as if they aren't your opinions but facts.

"The big change at Everton now is that no one will be able to rest on their laurels. He needs to push the board for January signings and if the Friedkins back him again then they’ll want results" is missing a big "just in my opinion, I don't actually have a clue what the Friedkin's think" after it.

I've no proof its not going to happen but I'm not the one going out of my way to make up and assign Moyes imaginary performance targets.

I didn’t, that was the CEO who came out twice saying top half and cup run.

Would you like a disclaimer on every post written on the forum? *this is my opinion and isn’t actually that of the Freidkins - just in case that wasn’t obvious to you for any reason…:

When it comes down to it though I’m arguing that in my opinion (please note as you seemingly have a problem picking this up normally) extremely successful capitalists are probably going to behave like capitalists and expect return on investment. Your argument is that this is wishful thinking? I think it’s extremely wishful thinking to believe a group of billionaires who have poured the best part of a billion into Everton would be happy with standing still.
 
I didn’t, that was the CEO who came out twice saying top half and cup run.

Would you like a disclaimer on every post written on the forum? *this is my opinion and isn’t actually that of the Freidkins - just in case that wasn’t obvious to you for any reason…:

When it comes down to it though I’m arguing that in my opinion (please note as you seemingly have a problem picking this up normally) extremely successful capitalists are probably going to behave like capitalists and expect return on investment. Your argument is that this is wishful thinking? I think it’s extremely wishful thinking to believe a group of billionaires who have poured the best part of a billion into Everton would be happy with standing still.
He had a two and a half year contract.

Unless a manager comes along who will obviously do better then I can't see them pulling the trigger because he committed the sin of keeping us midtable. I highly doubt if we finish 11th or 12th they will be panicking as you want them to do.
 
He had a two and a half year contract.

Unless a manager comes along who will obviously do better then I can't see them pulling the trigger because he committed the sin of keeping us midtable. I highly doubt if we finish 11th or 12th they will be panicking as you want them to do.

Where have I said I want them to panick? Now who is asserting opinions to others?

That’s a good way of covering all bases isn’t it. Of course anyone with a brain cell isn’t going to remove a manager and appoint a worse one? Any replacement would obviously be expected to do better or they wouldn’t be a replacement.

I want Everton to do as well as possible. Under Kenwright first time round that meant keeping hold of Moyes as I didn’t think anyone would do better under Kenwright’s buy to sell policy. Under Moshiri at the end it was backing Dyche until the takeover happened as I didn’t think anyone else we could attract pre-takeover would get more out of a squad being gutted every window.

The landscape has changed now though. The question that should be getting asked this summer is a simple one ‘are we extending Moyes’ contract?’

Now if Moyes is sat here with a top half finish and has gone deep in the FA cup then in my opinion the powers that be at Everton may consider another contract as he’s showing season on season progression.

If he’s sat here with a 12th place finish and we’ve gone out the cup early, it’s my opinion they may not wish to renew his contract and might consider someone else is right for the next phase of the rebuild.

These are not particularly wild opinions. Managers aren’t often allowed to go into their final years of a contract without some decision being made on whether a new one will be offered or not. So one way or another there will probably be a decision at the end of this season. It just becomes a question of what you think the minimum performance target is and then whether it’s been achieved or not.
 

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