2025/26 David Moyes

[the golden visionary]

That's a lesson learned for the big man. He was naive, there's no question he got mugged by an experienced Arsenal team.

Looked like something they work on it was done with such precision

 

[davek]

JOB single handedly loses us the game and deserves criticism for that. Moyes had a lot of praise for our players apart from calling out a very dumb mistanke-and pointing out Obriens excuse, that he was pushed into it. Really hard to blame Moyes at this point i would say

He should have kept it in-house. He didn't and that reflects very badly on his character. He's always done this.

First time he did it here was with Richard Wright IIRC.

It's a terrible trait.

 

[davek]

Looked like something they work on it was done with such precision

They get all those details right. They are probably the best in the league on every type of set piece. It's down to a science for them.

 

[the golden visionary]

They get all those details right. They are probably the best in the league on every type of set piece. It's down to a science for them.

Jakes mistake apart, id like to know who was supposed to be picking up that califuori, he had a clean run at that.
Block him, the rest of it doesnt happen

 

[Toffeepot]

In English?....

That was English ya fruit, not my fault you can't read anything that derails your nonsense

 

[Swartzy]

Watched it mate so less of the patronising tone if you don't mind

I mean, you did bring it up that you always used the thread instead of watching us, didn't you.

Anyway that was a bit rude on my part, so Apologies for that.

Back to the point with the game though, if we had our first team available, we would have been watching a different game..

 

[when i score we riot]

He should have kept it in-house. He didn't and that reflects very badly on his character. He's always done this.

First time he did it here was with Richard Wright IIRC.

It's a terrible trait.

I dunno, some takeaways from his quotes:
"So it was a poor decision by Jake, he shouldn't have raised his arms above his head at the action, but look, he feels he gets slightly pushed from behind and that caused his arms to fly up."

Moyes generally speaks in insinuations these days, and doesn't really use strong superlatives. This is the main situation in the match, of course he has to address it. He doesn't throw anyone under the bus, but acknowledges it was bad (it effin was!) and makes sure JOB's excuse for the action is mentioned.

"I thought the players were doing a great job, certainly their energy, their commitment, all those words you would use for the performance, they tried to show it, tried to show everything about it. The quality we lacked at times, our passing wasn't as good. It was probably one of the poorest we've had with the ball."

Also acknowledges that we played well and that we lacked quality in general, and that is so on the nose. No lack of effort, but we were utterly awful when on the ball.

"I don't know if the referee was expecting it or VAR, but it didn't go our way. We've not been getting many decisions here, that's for sure."

Regarding Barry's penalty shout. It's subtle as Moyes knows not to get himself suspended for criticising refs, and nobody likes a moaner, but it really is on the nose again: The ref's decision played a major role in the margins not going our way yesterday.

I agree Moyes has been harsh back in the day sometimes, and he has definetly learned that a bad line in a presser can haunt you for ages ("knife to a gunfight" was mentioned several times in last night's match thread) but by all accounts he handles himself well in media duties, is careful to protect his players, and is bold enough to offer an honest assessment of our performances (none of that "everything is phenomenal" crap) that more often than not is correct.

 

[Toffeepot]

Calfiori also jumped into him while his arms were raised, almost trapping at least the left one.

O'brien didn't do much to try and get his hands down tho. That would be my only criticism

It's also the only thing anyone is criticising, and the reason we gave away the pen.

 

[Swartzy]

JOB single handedly loses us the game and deserves criticism for that. Moyes had a lot of praise for our players apart from calling out a very dumb mistanke-and pointing out Obriens excuse, that he was pushed into it. Really hard to blame Moyes at this point i would say

I wouldn't say single handedly..

 

[davek]

Jakes mistake apart, id like to know who was supposed to be picking up that califuori, he had a clean run at that.
Block him, the rest of it doesnt happen

The other thing was post match the O'Brien 'push' on Gyokres was seen as "part of the minute of madness of Jake O'Brien" for the Kopite dominated sky sports pundits.

If Van Dijk had done that or an Arsenal CB it'd have been seen as "a savvy bit of defending that stopped a certain goal".

Anyone who just drinks the media Kool Aid on our players are a bit daft IMO.

 

[Toffeepot]

I dunno, some takeaways from his quotes:
"So it was a poor decision by Jake, he shouldn't have raised his arms above his head at the action, but look, he feels he gets slightly pushed from behind and that caused his arms to fly up."

Moyes generally speaks in insinuations these days, and doesn't really use strong superlatives. This is the main situation in the match, of course he has to address it. He doesn't throw anyone under the bus, but acknowledges it was bad (it effin was!) and makes sure JOB's excuse for the action is mentioned.

"I thought the players were doing a great job, certainly their energy, their commitment, all those words you would use for the performance, they tried to show it, tried to show everything about it. The quality we lacked at times, our passing wasn't as good. It was probably one of the poorest we've had with the ball."

Also acknowledges that we played well and that we lacked quality in general, and that is so on the nose. No lack of effort, but we were utterly awful when on the ball.

"I don't know if the referee was expecting it or VAR, but it didn't go our way. We've not been getting many decisions here, that's for sure."

Regarding Barry's penalty shout. It's subtle as Moyes knows not to get himself suspended for criticising refs, and nobody likes a moaner, but it really is on the nose again: The ref's decision played a major role in the margins not going our way yesterday.

I agree Moyes has been harsh back in the day sometimes, and he has definetly learned that a bad line in a presser can haunt you for ages ("knife to a gunfight" was mentioned several times in last night's match thread) but by all accounts he handles himself well in media duties, is careful to protect his players, and is bold enough to offer an honest assessment of our performances (none of that "everything is phenomenal" crap) that more often than not is correct.

Davek prefers managers that say things like 'everything is phenomenal' after getting hammered, or 'it would be a good run if you added a few wins'

 

[WilliamBoo]

My fear is that if we played badly in this match, the next one will be even worse. Moyes will make the necessary personnel changes but not the system, and the modest Burnley side could cause us problems.

 

[Rita_Poon]

In English?....

gimme the keys...

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Self inflicted with McNeil, he needs to punt the useless crisp packet.

Can’t legislate for JOB turning into a Harlem GT, and we were in the game until the pen, but he needs to be a bit braver in tactics and selection, especially against the so called weaker teams.

26 years of age, he would struggle with pace at walking football.

 

[davek]

I dunno, some takeaways from his quotes:
"So it was a poor decision by Jake, he shouldn't have raised his arms above his head at the action, but look, he feels he gets slightly pushed from behind and that caused his arms to fly up."

Moyes generally speaks in insinuations these days, and doesn't really use strong superlatives. This is the main situation in the match, of course he has to address it. He doesn't throw anyone under the bus, but acknowledges it was bad (it effin was!) and makes sure JOB's excuse for the action is mentioned.

"I thought the players were doing a great job, certainly their energy, their commitment, all those words you would use for the performance, they tried to show it, tried to show everything about it. The quality we lacked at times, our passing wasn't as good. It was probably one of the poorest we've had with the ball."

Also acknowledges that we played well and that we lacked quality in general, and that is so on the nose. No lack of effort, but we were utterly awful when on the ball.

"I don't know if the referee was expecting it or VAR, but it didn't go our way. We've not been getting many decisions here, that's for sure."

Regarding Barry's penalty shout. It's subtle as Moyes knows not to get himself suspended for criticising refs, and nobody likes a moaner, but it really is on the nose again: The ref's decision played a major role in the margins not going our way yesterday.

I agree Moyes has been harsh back in the day sometimes, and he has definetly learned that a bad line in a presser can haunt you for ages ("knife to a gunfight" was mentioned several times in last night's match thread) but by all accounts he handles himself well in media duties, is careful to protect his players, and is bold enough to offer an honest assessment of our performances (none of that "everything is phenomenal" crap) that more often than not is correct.

I heard Moyes state at the end of his post match interview that "the players dont get things wrong on purpose...or at least they say they dont".

What a daft thing to say about your players.

He's always been a classless buffoon who never admits he gets things wrong. He stood there yesterday and watched us get well beaten and outplayed by an Arsenal team that are struggling to find form.

His response is always to look for others to blame for a wretched performance.