2025/26 David Moyes

[Swartzy]

….no idea what that even means

A forced changed is because of injury or even red/yellow card. You said the Palace changes were ‘forced’ and I was suggesting they weren’t.

I cant personally remember a time when Moyes has actively made half time changes like that, he just doesn't do it.

They were good/obvious changes, it won us the game. But that half was abysmal, yet Moyes would still normally keep the same structure and hope it corrects itself.

That was very random, and it hasn't happened since, or possibly before.
Though i expect i'm probably wrong on him doing it before.

 

[Eggs]

I cant personally remember a time when Moyes has actively made half time changes like that, he just doesn't do it.

They were good/obvious changes, it won us the game. But that half was abysmal, yet Moyes would still normally keep the same structure and hope it corrects itself.

That was very random, and it hasn't happened since, or possibly before.
Though i expect i'm probably wrong on him doing it before.

….because our performances have generally been good. It’s not complicated.

 

[wandyr79]

The subs made zero difference for the 25 minutes after he'd made the changes. We were headed to a defeat only for a yellow card that got the crowd involved. As was said after the match by everyone: it was a Phil Neville reducer on Ronaldo type of moment that turned it for us.

Anyone arguing that a limited manager like Moyes outwitted Glasner is off the charts crackers.

You can argue that a few things turned that game. To just focus on one is very blinkered.

I have already commented on the things that changed that game. In relation to the changes. I thought that they made us a bit more solid, there were less chances for Palace than the 1st half, so improvement. They were a confident team, at that point and were always still going to be dangerous, especially on the break against us who were pushing forward a bit more.

As said, there were improvements, more so attacking then defence but both areas improved in the 2nd half. Then the crowd got involved and pushed us that little bit further.

I think that to completely ignore the effect a manager can have at half time and on the sidelines is just ridiculous.

There is room to have a bit of common sense and say, you know what I don't like the guy but there were things he did right.

That last line is why nobody takes you seriously, especially on the subject of Everton managers past and present. Nobody has said that he 'outwitted' Glasner, I have not seen one post even mention anything about the Palace manager. They have said that the changes he made put us in a better position to win the game.

 

[Swartzy]

….because our performances have generally been good. It’s not complicated.

We done 2 bogey grounds and Forest because he had to move KDH back, the first chance he got he moved KDH back to no10.

I'm not trying to play down Moyes, but these things are glaringly obvious.

 

[davek]

You can argue that a few things turned that game. To just focus on one is very blinkered.

I have already commented on the things that changed that game. In relation to the changes. I thought that they made us a bit more solid, there were less chances for Palace than the 1st half, so improvement. They were a confident team, at that point and were always still going to be dangerous, especially on the break against us who were pushing forward a bit more.

As said, there were improvements, more so attacking then defence but both areas improved in the 2nd half. Then the crowd got involved and pushed us that little bit further.

I think that to completely ignore the effect a manager can have at half time and on the sidelines is just ridiculous.

There is room to have a bit of common sense and say, you know what I don't like the guy but there were things he did right.

That last line is why nobody takes you seriously, especially on the subject of Everton managers past and present. Nobody has said that he 'outwitted' Glasner, I have not seen one post even mention anything about the Palace manager. They have said that the changes he made put us in a better position to win the game.

Continue to believe that a game that had seen ZERO change to it in the second half with subs made 25 minutes earlier was affected by the changes if you like.

The MAJOR moment in that game was the Garner-Pino encounter.

 

[wandyr79]

Continue to believe that a game that had seen ZERO change to it in the second half with subs made 25 minutes earlier was affected by the changes if you like.

The MAJOR moment in that game was the Garner-Pino encounter.

But there was not ZERO change though was there? That moment was a BIG factor but not a MAJOR factor.

I remember feeling that we were edging back into the game before that incident. Very much like Ronaldo/Neville, it was not the sole reason for the win, it was a big factor in getting the players up a bit more.

In fact, you see these moments all the time and on most occasions the game is lifted for a short period and then it goes back to the normal pace of the game. Can we name any more incidents like this that can possibly be fully attributed to the eventual win?

The players and manager still have to play a game of football and the opposition players are not always likely to be so affected negatively that they go into their shell completely. A team winning is never down to one thing, especially just one moment where the crowd feel an injustice. It can lift the players, as said, but it is never ever the sole reason for a win.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

What about the FA cup.. will he be resting players or full strength (available) team?

 

[Eggs]

We done 2 bogey grounds and Forest because he had to move KDH back, the first chance he got he moved KDH back to no10.

I'm not trying to play down Moyes, but these things are glaringly obvious.

….because he prefers KDH in that position. We had 10 men against United, no idea why some posters get hung up on it.

 

[Drico]

What about the FA cup.. will he be resting players or full strength (available) team?

 

[Swartzy]

….because he prefers KDH in that position. We had 10 men against United, no idea why some posters get hung up on it.

Yeah I just think we only see a percentage of his game at no10

Moyes doesn't want to change from that formation, so we need another competent CM that isn't Gana.

Maybe Rohl does fit that profile, just yet to be seen.

 

[davek]

But there was not ZERO change though was there? That moment was a BIG factor but not a MAJOR factor.

I remember feeling that we were edging back into the game before that incident. Very much like Ronaldo/Neville, it was not the sole reason for the win, it was a big factor in getting the players up a bit more.

In fact, you see these moments all the time and on most occasions the game is lifted for a short period and then it goes back to the normal pace of the game. Can we name any more incidents like this that can possibly be fully attributed to the eventual win?

The players and manager still have to play a game of football and the opposition players are not always likely to be so affected negatively that they go into their shell completely. A team winning is never down to one thing, especially just one moment where the crowd feel an injustice. It can lift the players, as said, but it is never ever the sole reason for a win.

Well, regardless of the merits of those subs that day, it's generally recognised that Moyes does like for like subs and cant change shape in a game. It's Plan A or Plan A.

 

[Eggs]

Well, regardless of the merits of those subs that day, it's generally recognised that Moyes does like for like subs and cant change shape in a game. It's Plan A or Plan A.

….seem to remember him bringing Beto on to join DCL when chasing a few games last season.

 

[hetion]

….because he prefers KDH in that position. We had 10 men against United, no idea why some posters get hung up on it.

My hunch is that long term he will move KDH back, he just hates Alcaraz and wants a different 10 before he'll do it regularly.

Basing purely on KDH saying simultaneously that he's happiest as an 8 *and* he loved Moyes plans for him when they spoke before he signed.

 

[Eggs]

My hunch is that long term he will move KDH back, he just hates Alcaraz and wants a different 10 before he'll do it regularly.

Basing purely on KDH saying simultaneously that he's happiest as an 8 *and* he loved Moyes plans for him when they spoke before he signed.

….i’d be certain he doesn’t ‘hate’ Alcaraz but like many on here, he’ll have doubts about the job he wants him to do. Funny how posters think a Manager dislikes players he doesn’t regularly select when the reality is he simply prefers others.

KDH offers everything Doucoure lacked in that hybrid role, he’s doing exactly what Moyes brought him into do. I’d be thinking Moyes will be more inclined to bring in somebody to replace Gueye, unless he feels he might already have that with Rohl or even Armstrong.

I think Moyes wants his quality in the top third and KDH is certainly in that category.

 

[Clarky cat]

….we were getting beat by Palace at home earlier in the season. Moyes made 2 or 3 substitutions at half-time as well as a number of positional/tactical changes to turn that one around. We won 2-1, Moyes was awarded Managerial performance of the week.

None of the substitutions were involved in goals so they won’t impact that stat, but they were the key to us getting the result.

Tim (a sub) won the penalty for the equaliser.