2025/26 David Moyes

[windymiller]

Nuno’s Wolves played some good football. Forest was different, but he took a raggedy squad and got them into Europe.

The football played depends as much as the players you have as the coaching. You think Pep would go to Leeds and playing like Man City? I think not.

I mean, his mentor Bielsa went there and played exciting football.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Ancelotti

There is that!

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I mean, his mentor Bielsa went there and played exciting football.

Bielsa didn’t mentor Guardiola. Guardiola has said he is a great coach, but that’s a totally different thing. Their styles are vastly different.

Guardiola admires and studies the methods of Bielsa, but they aren’t in a relationship the way Ferguson was mentored by Stein.

Cruyff is probably more of a mentor to Guardiola.

 

[windymiller]

Bielsa didn’t mentor Guardiola. Guardiola has said he is a great coach, but that’s a totally different thing. Their styles are vastly different.

Guardiola admires and studies the methods of Bielsa, but they aren’t in a relationship the way Ferguson was mentored by Stein.

Cruyff is probably more of a mentor to Guardiola.

And Guardiola hasn't managed Leeds but somehow you know that he wouldn't play good football there. So, it seems like we can both make up a load of old bollocks to satisfy our arguments.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

And Guardiola hasn't managed Leeds but somehow you know that he wouldn't play good football there. So, it seems like we can both make up a load of old bollocks to satisfy our arguments.

Not really. It’s pretty damn obvious you need the best players to make Guardiola’s style effective. It’s built around being an elite system for the best players on the planet.

 

[BlueAmigo]

Nuno’s Wolves played some good football. Forest was different, but he took a raggedy squad and got them into Europe.

The football played depends as much as the players you have as the coaching. You think Pep would go to Leeds and playing like Man City? I think not.

Exactly.. My dad who's a long suffering Wolves fan and has seen the heydays of the 50s said Nuno had them playing the best football he'd ever seen at Molineux, until the owners started selling his best players repeatedly. Sound familiar?

Any manager who's squad is rescued to rubble, or inherits rubble, has to be pragmatic.

 

[Pabbers]

We’re letting Moyes sign his players and we will this summer if he stays, just look at his signings at West Ham, most of them were shocking.

Are we? Well he doesn’t use them.

Same could happens with next manager, this committee needs looking at or at least need to learn lessons from last summer.

 

[Dyo1878]

I can see why people want Moyes gone, my reasoning for that is they think we can get someone better. If we can get someone better then I’d happily say thanks to Moyes and move on.

Fact is, this is the first season in 1/2 a decade that there’s been no relegation worry thread in this forum, Moyes has done that with two crap strikers, no decent full backs and he’s missed his best CB for 70% of the season and his best creator for 50% of it.

The level of disrespect is absolutely confined, as expected, to social media. It’s certainly not real life.

If we can get someone better and more up coming than Moyes, then I’m all for it. The Bournemouth or Palace magner would be really exciting.

But no one has done more for Everton in the PL era than Moyes.

First time, from constantly relegation threatened to solid top 6 team, 2nd time around from 5 years where we’d still be discussing potential relegation (bar Dyche season 2) to not thinking about it all year.

The disrespect he gets is unbecoming of Evertonians.

Every single everton fan I interact with on a daily basis wants Moyes no where near this club next season. So no, it isn't confined to social media.

 

[windymiller]

Not really. It’s pretty damn obvious you need the best players to make Guardiola’s style effective. It’s built around being an elite system for the best players on the planet.

According to you nobody can play good football anywhere that doesn't have a sovereign wealth fund. Despite loads of clubs all around the world doing so. It's the only way your Moyes Uber Alles philosophy can survive. It's weird.

 

[Pabbers]

Just going to consolidate these two replies to not clutter the thread, but have to point out you're wrong about a few things there.

Firstly, I don't know this but I'm fairly confident we spend a good deal more than 100m this summer. Rumours of 200m available are most likely wide of the mark but I'm expecting the spend to be closer to 200m than 100m. And also have to point out that we spent 120m total last summer not sure its accurate to say we didn't spend much.

Secondly - Bournemouth did spend a a lot last summer. 150m roughly, but they still made far more than they spent selling the previous crop of players that Iraola recruited and developed (Iraola is actually very heavily involved in the recruitment there). They made 300m in player sales last summer, hence them being able to drop the money they did getting new players in. Their budget without factoring in player sales is far, far lower than ours.

If the issue of a manager like Iraola coming in is that fans won't give him time to build a team and develop players, then that's honestly something we need to address in ourselves as a fanbase and maybe humble ourselves a bit. This is a massive rebuild that will take time to do properly. There is no manager that comes in and immediately has us competing and building a squad that will be able to sustain any meaningful progress over the next 5-10 years. We are going to have to give someone a chance to build.

£200 million?? You are in dreamland mate, it wont be half that.

Ireola has done a great job, nobody is denying that…its similar to what Moyes did with us first time….playing style aside.

Im not convinced he or any current name will come in and make us shine.

If we are talking about giving a manager time…why are we on about sacking one who has us close to this wonder manager Ireola.

 

[PercyPlant]

Every single everton fan I interact with on a daily basis wants Moyes no where near this club next season. So no, it isn't confined to social media.

Yep. Ok.

 

[PercyPlant]

Every single everton fan I interact with on a daily basis wants Moyes no where near this club next season. So no, it isn't confined to social media.

Honestly, you’re suggesting that every single Evertonian you interact with on a daily basis is in 100% agreement Moyes should be gone? Even on this toxic forum you can’t find 100% agreement on anything, yet you expect me to believe that you know multiple match going fans and every single one of them wants Moyes out.

Stop lying.

 

[windymiller]

It’s called being realistic. Ben White is a good player who will improve the team. It’s easy to fantasize about targets who would transform the team, but they are unlikely to be available.

People slag of White and yet he was playing regularly for a top four team. A lot of people also slagged off KDH before he had even kicked a ball and yet he’s maybe the best player this season along with Garner. White has had a far better career at Arsenal than KDH had at Chelsea.

Uh oh

BBC News - Arsenal's Ben White set to miss rest of season with knee injury - BBC Sport https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c0m28g07m39o

 

[Dyo1878]

Honestly, you’re suggesting that every single Evertonian you interact with on a daily basis is in 100% agreement Moyes should be gone? Even on this toxic forum you can’t find 100% agreement on anything, yet you expect me to believe that you know multiple match going fans and every single one of them wants Moyes out.

Stop lying.

My family and lads I go/watch the match with? Yes, no one wants him. We had 11 years of him, we know what he brings and its not success.

I also don't know what the point of lying would be, i haven't stated i interact with 100 everton fans a day

Shall I gather some eye witness testimony for you?

 

[The Littlest Yobo]

Fact is, this is the first season in 1/2 a decade that there’s been no relegation worry thread in this forum, Moyes has done that with two crap strikers, no decent full backs and he’s missed his best CB for 70% of the season and his best creator for 50% of it.

The level of disrespect is absolutely confined, as expected, to social media. It’s certainly not real life.

If we can get someone better and more up coming than Moyes, then I’m all for it. The Bournemouth or Palace magner would be really exciting.

But no one has done more for Everton in the PL era than Moyes.

First time, from constantly relegation threatened to solid top 6 team, 2nd time around from 5 years where we’d still be discussing potential relegation (bar Dyche season 2) to not thinking about it all year.

The disrespect he gets is unbecoming of Evertonians.

Is there any way that our league positions and points from the last two seasons can be pinned to the top of this thread? Because people seem to be constantly saying that a team that finished 23 points ahead of relegation last year and 14 the year before (actually 22 without points deduction) were somehow under threat of going down? This will be the 3rd consecutive season we have been nowhere near being relegated.

It just seems to be a complete blanket refusal to accept the actual data of the last two years to justify the turgid lack of progress this season from a manager who has absolutely wasted millions on failed transfers and lost points consistently with his negative, outdated tactics.