2025/26 David Moyes

[summerisle]

Yes So we can have another 5 years old relegation battles

You do know that they're not mutually exclusive.

 

[riddick]

He also needs to learn from these games, three in a row where we could have been 2 or 3 goals down before halftime. I don't want that to be four games in a row on Tuesday. If we keep opening the door, sooner or later a team is going to accept that invite.

I mean no offense, but, come on. David Moyes is not a "learn from this" manager. He plays how he plays and it's been the same for 25 years. The only time people think he learns is because everyone is injured and he has to play the players everyone said he should be playing from the onset and then he wins Manager of the year or whatever.

 

[Seathestars]

Just an update on this - Brentford now equal us with 68 points with one game in hand, need at least a draw against Arsenal to go above us.

Newcastle still on 64 with a game in hand.

I'm over the moon with the progress and the squad full of kids.
He's doing a grand old job laying the foundations.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Nathan Patterson has played 465 minutes in the Premier League this season and hasn't assisted a goal. He hasn't created a big chance. He hasn't played a key pass. His expected assists (xA) per game is 0.04. He's made 5 assists in his whole career and scored one goal.

Using "not playing Patterson as he offers more attacking threat" is such a flimsy stick to try to beat Moyes with.

Both WhoScored and Transfermarket have Patterson only with 239 minutes.

Nathan Patterson - Summary

Nathan Patterson statistics – 24 years_old Everton Defender (Right) / Midfielder (Right). Check out his latest detailed stats including goals, assists, strengths & weaknesses and match ratings.

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And whilst I agree that his minimal minutes haven’t show great figures, O’ Brien, with over 10 times the minutes overall has only 1 assist and is hardly romping away with key passes either.

 

[SJB]

This is just my opinion, but I felt he made us instantly better at RB and Jake instantly better at CB. Nathan was flying up and down the pitch, pressing up high, making crosses, tracking back.

It's a myth, Patterson barely gets into the final third and his crossing is statistically among the worst in the league. O'Brien plays higher up the pitch and beats Patterson on nearly every attacking metric. You do have a point about sample size but Patterson showed nothing to suggest he provides more attacking threat when given a run of games..

 

[Eagle Eye]

Its now all about the players we can attract to this squad. We have the 4th best defence in this period so thats a solid base to build from. Just need to back Moyes with the right players which is something we haven't done since we backed Martinez and Ancellotti. Koeman was given players, but just completely the wrong ones!

 

[The binman chronicles]

Nathan Patterson has played 465 minutes in the Premier League this season and hasn't assisted a goal. He hasn't created a big chance. He hasn't played a key pass. His expected assists (xA) per game is 0.04. He's made 5 assists in his whole career and scored one goal.

Using "not playing Patterson as he offers more attacking threat" is such a flimsy stick to try to beat Moyes with.

You are right Patterson's end product hasn't been there (since he arrived really) but he does offer balance. Just to have someone higher up the pitch who is more comfortable on the ball to offer up a triangle instead of passing it back helps the whole team stay in the opposition half.

It will also likely help pin their full back deeper and then you'll get fewer overlaps happening on that side of the pitch.

We played fairly good with Patterson in the side whilst Keane sat out his suspension, it would have been good to get confirmation one way or another if Patterson could do a better job than JOB, we never got the run of games to answer that question. You can't blame people for wanting to find out.

 

[SJB]

Both WhoScored and Transfermarket have Patterson only with 239 minutes.

Nathan Patterson - Summary

Nathan Patterson statistics – 24 years_old Everton Defender (Right) / Midfielder (Right). Check out his latest detailed stats including goals, assists, strengths & weaknesses and match ratings.

www.whoscored.com

And whilst I agree that his minimal minutes haven’t show great figures, O’ Brien, with over 10 times the minutes overall has only 1 assist and is hardly romping away with key passes either.

Apologies, typo - sofascore have him at 265.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

I mean no offense, but, come on. David Moyes is not a "learn from this" manager. He plays how he plays and it's been the same for 25 years. The only time people think he learns is because everyone is injured and he has to play the players everyone said he should be playing from the onset and then he wins Manager of the year or whatever.

I agree, mate. I’m glad Moyes is here at this point in time. But there’s a time in everyone’s life as you age where you get caught in the comfortable at the expense of adaptation and change. Not so bad while living as an average bloke. But to a football club, it can be a self-imposed ceiling.

I actually don’t see real creativity from Moyes. I see extreme lineup changes when he’s backed into a corner and there are literally no other options. Then, and only then, will he make the changes.

And even if those changes yield massively positive results, he’ll default back to the comfortable and familiar setting. That’s why there’s a fine balance in terms of age and experience when managing in the PL. Sometime it’s better to leave a little early than stay too late.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Say one thing for Moyes, he properly loves it when we win. None of this professional “the boys did well and showed character,” guff and polite applause for the away fans. He’s like a giggling kid when we take the points.

 

[Eggs]

…..they play for this fella, I’d have no doubt about the spirit this group have.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I mean no offense, but, come on. David Moyes is not a "learn from this" manager. He plays how he plays and it's been the same for 25 years. The only time people think he learns is because everyone is injured and he has to play the players everyone said he should be playing from the onset and then he wins Manager of the year or whatever.

He’s literally on UEFA technical committees. I’m pretty sure learning is part of his approach!

 

[Toffeepot]

It's a myth, Patterson barely gets into the final third and his crossing is statistically among the worst in the league. O'Brien plays higher up the pitch and beats Patterson on nearly every attacking metric. You do have a point about sample size but Patterson showed nothing to suggest he provides more attacking threat when given a run of games..

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That heat map is based on all games right?

 

[riddick]

He’s literally on UEFA technical committees. I’m pretty sure learning is part of his approach!

Could have fooled me with how he sets us up.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Apologies, typo - sofascore have him at 265.

No worries!

Overall I’d just like to give Patterson a run of at least a couple of games to see what he can produce, as much as anything to see what we need to spend in the summer - two RBs or just one.