2024/25 David Moyes

[Nymzee]

I might be downplaying our situation but I honestly think any semi-competent manager keeps us up this year. It’s the +2 years afterwards for Moyes that’s the killer.

Say my suspicion is correct and we were just THAT crap because of Dyche, then we’re not in a position post-May that we actually need the proverbial safe pair of hands but we’re stuck with him.

Had we only given him 6 months on the above basis, though, it would have been a crap call because there’s not a lot of incentive for anyone else at the club to really start building for our future with such a short term manager in place.

The only way Moyes makes sense is if we’re kind of resigning ourselves to mediocrity being our ceiling for the next couple of years, then we can worry about being exciting and progressive from 2027.

All a bit of a slap in the chops, really.

Again, though, he’s here now and it’s transfer time so let’s hope we can make a good start to Project Survival and not have squeaky bums come May.

To me, all I'm interested in is the next 6 months not what Everton looks like in 2027. Managers don't stick around. We don't know the structure of his deal, his intentions, anything.

What if he stayed till 2027 and did a West Ham and had us fighting for European spots. Would you come back here and say you got it wrong?

People seem to be projecting he's going to fail.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

So if all you care about is survival, and you know we have a great chance under him, why are you so bothered? You're literally going against your own wants for this season. Just because he's signed 2.5 years doesn't mean there aren't break clauses or that he won't be gone in a year.

He might have a survival bonus + break clause in there, no one knows.

Let's hope so;

TFG seem to be telling media friendly folk theyre not a soft touch. Lets hope Moyes' contract reflects that.

 

[Goat]

That's the thing though. Did you want Moyes building a team with our first transfer budget in ages????

Half this team is out of contract as we all know. Do you think Moyes is the type of charmer for the modern day egos that would be helpful on getting them to sign new contracts at favourable terms?

He will sign some players and put his stamp on this squad with 2 and a half years. It's not something that excites me and screams of yet another stop gap solution that's kept us in these relegation spots for years now

Did I want Moyes? No, not really.

Do I think he can deal with modern footballers? Probably.

Its not ideal, neither was appointing Dyche.

But its done now, so we have to wait and see, thats not me saying dont complain, complain away, hopefully all our fears will amount to nothing.

I dunno, could go either way, I am currently playing a game I first started playing in 2002, which is ironically when Moyes came, right? Maybe its our destiny.

Do you believe in fate Jake?

 

[Walken]

Can you not just ban him for his name alone?

This is a family forum, we dont need sex offenders on here.

My first thought at the boy Moyes rejoining was of your happiness.

 

[Braintree Blue]

Its a massive job for anyone to take on lets be honest. First you have a team struggling to score and devoid of confidence. A lot of those players are out of contract in the summer so may have more than one eye on a future move,

Then comes the summer when its a total rebuild from a point of almost scratch. By then we will probably have a new DOF as well.

For now though its all about the short term quick fix. What can Moyes do to improve us in the immediate period. Im not a fan of bringing him back but think he may be the best short term choice we had available as he should know all he needs to know on day 1.

 

[Yarrgh]

Well he's here so what we going to do about it? As much as I thought he was a rat in how he left us and behaved towards afterwards, we don't have the luxury to whinge for too long.

Get points, try attacking, get the team showing some commitment and endeavour and keep us safe and all will be well.

Also it could have been Walter Smith or any of our last 10 managers since he went so it isn't all that bad.

 

[Goat]

My first thought at the boy Moyes rejoining was of your happiness.

Nostalgia is 1 hell of a drug.

 

[bluejohn66]

Anyone got any links to anyone in the printing business? Might be worth getting a few Moyes Out banners in the sales !!

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

To me, all I'm interested in is the next 6 months not what Everton looks like in 2027. Managers don't stick around. We don't know the structure of his deal, his intentions, anything.

What if he stayed till 2027 and did a West Ham and had us fighting for European spots. Would you come back here and say you got it wrong?

People seem to be projecting he's going to fail.

I have to admit I’m wrong daily on here so it’d be water off a duck’s back for me, mate. Be made up to have to admit as much in this case.

I don’t think he’ll fail to keep us up at all. I can easily imagine he’ll help us realise our “proper” position or lower mid-table next year, too. He’s just not someone I can imagine doing, ironically, what Moyes MkI did for the club and taking us up a whole step to the upper mid/Euro places level. Any progress we do make, while still progress, will also be made with pretty turgid, safety first footy which I think we’ve all had a bit of a titful of.

 

[Runub]

If we stay up it is a good appointment as I think we would have gone with Dyche. Whether it is a good appointment in the longer term who knows. A few additions to the squad and we might avoid perennial relegation scraps which would be a plus. Given how far we have fallen it will take sometime to recover to just being respectable, never mind challenging for anything

 

[Nymzee]

I have to admit I’m wrong daily on here so it’d be water off a duck’s back for me, mate. Be made up to have to admit as much in this case.

I don’t think he’ll fail to keep us up at all. I can easily imagine he’ll help us realise our “proper” position or lower mid-table next year, too. He’s just not someone I can imagine doing, ironically, what Moyes MkI did for the club and taking us up a whole step to the upper mid/Euro places level. Any progress we do make, while still progress, will also be made with pretty turgid, safety first footy which I think we’ve all had a bit of a titful of.

Genuinely, how many years do you think this club is away from the upper mid/Euro days though? Your unhappiness with this appointment suggests you think it should be by 2027.

 

[Jebus_lives]

This year.

But we've got to kick on from the summer - the manager is vital to that as we look to recruit half a squad.

We should have sacked Dyche after Doucoure's Bournemouth. We couldn't because ownership/PSR.

We should sack Moyes after the end of this season - 90% of us wouldn't have wanted him in the summer/going into Bramley Moore. And for good reason.

I dont really care how he does - as long as we stay up. My opinion on the man has been well formed from 20+ years.

We brought Dyche in because we wanted stability and we needed to tread water while we resolved the PSR issues/transition to the new stadium.

Last year he fit the bill. This year he's looked anything but. It's quite a pivotal time for us given we need someone who has a proven premier league experience (reduces risk), can manage on meagre resources and will build a foundation for consistent improvement.

If at the end of his contract he's left us in the same position he left us last time, we'll be far better placed to attract a manager and players to kick on.

 

[Efcjake]

Did I want Moyes? No, not really.

Do I think he can deal with modern footballers? Probably.

Its not ideal, neither was appointing Dyche.

But its done now, so we have to wait and see, thats not me saying dont complain, complain away, hopefully all our fears will amount to nothing.

I dunno, could go either way, I am currently playing a game I first started playing in 2002, which is ironically when Moyes came, right? Maybe its our destiny.

Do you believe in fate Jake?

Yes I do. Right now it seems we are fated to be Sisyphus.

Also you should post about it in my nostalgia thread in the Alehouse.

It's the fact that these new owners walked in and, rightfully, sacked Dyche then took two days to decide the most cliché of all Everton memes and gave David Moyes everything he asked for.

That doesn't sit well. There wasn't any manager search, or succession planning, I doubt we even interviewed another soul or contacted an agent.

Friedkins have literally pulled the "Just give it Moyes for the season" and been had off into 2.5 years. Even Allardyce only managed to squeeze an extra year out of Mosh. It does not bode well imo.

Maybe he turns it around and gets us headed in the right direction but it all feels very lazy and like a wasted opportunity again.

 

[Mase]

I’m happy with the return, obviously hope he can steady this ship and produce results with performances. Under Moyes we were always very hard to beat at goodison, I would love to see that again.

 

[Efcjake]

Genuinely, how many years do you think this club is away from the upper mid/Euro days though? Your unhappiness with this appointment suggests you think it should be by 2027.

These things can happen very quickly with the right investment, signings and manager.

We had the perfect opportunity to start over and attempt something.

David Moyes was not who I was hoping would be leading that in 2025.