Is that what nabbing him from leeds was about?
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Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
No result is ever guaranteed. It's about having the bollocks to try and go for it.
People moaned about how negative Dyche had us set up. If people are honest, what we've seen this last month hasn't been terribly different.
This belief that the only way we can play is with 11 men behind the ball at all times or we will immediately get hammered has to die.
Grfirestorm
Player Valuation: £1m
If it hadn’t been for an awful VAR intervention we’d be 3 points clear of United and our momentum wouldn’t have been stalled like it did. If we think we have management issues, can only imagine what’s going on in the United forums.
It’s amazing that we can enjoy a sunny day and not have the fear of relegation and yet still fill a thread of should we sacking a manager we’ve only put in place 3 months ago who turned us around and allowed us not to fear being o in the championship.
It’s amazing that we can enjoy a sunny day and not have the fear of relegation and yet still fill a thread of should we sacking a manager we’ve only put in place 3 months ago who turned us around and allowed us not to fear being o in the championship.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
I agree it can be done. Some teams need more surgery than others.
Villa started building this squad in championship. McGinn and Mings were purchased there.
Martinez, Konza, Watkins, Cash came in the first season in the premier league. That is the spine of the side. They have also mixed big spending, decent frees (barkley, teilermans) championship (Rogers) and excellent loans. As well as bringing the odd player through And traded players when there stock was high - Jhon Durran, and Grealish
They have been asstute but spent a lot.
Forest signed a whole entire new squad. It was always going to be difficult to make that work the first season with so many players moving in especially from foreign clubs but Nuno has been able to benefit
No manager turns us into a successful side next season, we need massive investment in the right areas that we can build on. We don't need short term buys creating a mercenary culture which we had last night. I do trust Moyes with the money to get this right character wise, we need to replicate that season we plucked Lescott, Cahill, and Jags from the Championship.
Was on live TV minge.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
That’s because some people aren’t that bright mate.
People can’t see that if you don’t spend money you can’t magic up free playing winning teams from fresh air. No matter who is in charge.
Moyes has not had a bean to spend yet. Appart from one loaning with conditions applying to him if he plays enough
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
If it hadn't been for a flukey Doucouré finish we would have won once in the last 9. That can go all sorts of ways.
Not having the fear of relegation as the baseline expectation is not an accomplishment to be proud of. Moshiri has broken so many people.
Take the deductions out of last season and that squad was exactly in the table where it is now, possibly slightly higher. We were not a relegation team last season or this season despite some paranoia and that's even with how crap Dyche had us playing.
People go on in here like Dyche got sacked. He packed in the job because he knew he wasn't sticking around. The new owners were fine with him continuing to muddle along to 16th or 17th. Appointing Moyes shows they were fine with the negative set ups as well.
Having moyes as our manager for the first league game there is at odds with the vision of a revitalised upcoming club in my opinion.
I don’t believe the owners wanted this either but their hand was forced.
Efcjake
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean there were plenty of other directions they could have gone in but they made their choice. Their hand was forced on the timing, nothing else.
EFC_FRANCIS
Player Valuation: £40m
That seems like exactly the kind of situation where you don't throw a new manager in the mix as well.
Blast_of_Cannock
Player Valuation: £25m
Put it next to the "Dyche's miracle finish" statue. Just need 1 more for another Holy Trinity.
Maybe their first choice wasnt available or they were rushed into a decision. I can understand it given where we were at the time. Moyes would have known our squad better than most so was a safe choice.
Thought it was a bit odd they didn’t have their own person lined up as soon as the takeover was finalised given how long it had been drawn out tbh.
Vaughan
Player Valuation: £35m
seeing a lot of posts about chelsea’s spend and position in the league etc, and what do we expect
if we went and gave that a good go yesterday, with the right players, and lost. id be disappointed but would accept it
what’s frustrating is the persistence with doucoure, the reluctance with alcaraz, not allowing him and ndiaye to play together, two keepers on the bench
i expected us to lose this game. what i struggle to accept is poor and negative decisions
at least when it was neville and osman getting picked perennially you could see the positives and solidity they brought to the side , with doucoure hes constantly losing possession which is dangerous defensively, and constantly losing duels
he must be incredible in training
it’s also the frustration of seeing every other decision he’s made so far be spot on, so maybe we should have more faith, but this alcaraz one is a killer. we’ve been starved of quality players like that for years and to see one available to snap up for £12m and Moyes is seemingly squandering it is absolutely infuriating
the obligation fee is being seen as a barrier/risk when it should be seen as a really positive and easy way to secure a quality player of 22 years of age, playing in the second most expensive position on the pitch, and arguably the hardest to play
if he has the second coming of Ozil lined up to sign then brilliant. but what i fear is its going to be Soucek
and even if we did sign the next Ozil or Mata, theyre going to be costly
12mil can solve our number 10 for another year or two, and we can spend our budget on a striker and a right winger which is going to be really expensive unless he has some gems up his sleeve
i think another frustration is since united the form has dipped, theyve just got a point at bournemouth, we are going to end up 16th or 17th when we could have kicked on and finished higher, giving us more money to spend with psr and looking a better prospect for signings
if we went and gave that a good go yesterday, with the right players, and lost. id be disappointed but would accept it
what’s frustrating is the persistence with doucoure, the reluctance with alcaraz, not allowing him and ndiaye to play together, two keepers on the bench
i expected us to lose this game. what i struggle to accept is poor and negative decisions
at least when it was neville and osman getting picked perennially you could see the positives and solidity they brought to the side , with doucoure hes constantly losing possession which is dangerous defensively, and constantly losing duels
he must be incredible in training
it’s also the frustration of seeing every other decision he’s made so far be spot on, so maybe we should have more faith, but this alcaraz one is a killer. we’ve been starved of quality players like that for years and to see one available to snap up for £12m and Moyes is seemingly squandering it is absolutely infuriating
the obligation fee is being seen as a barrier/risk when it should be seen as a really positive and easy way to secure a quality player of 22 years of age, playing in the second most expensive position on the pitch, and arguably the hardest to play
if he has the second coming of Ozil lined up to sign then brilliant. but what i fear is its going to be Soucek
and even if we did sign the next Ozil or Mata, theyre going to be costly
12mil can solve our number 10 for another year or two, and we can spend our budget on a striker and a right winger which is going to be really expensive unless he has some gems up his sleeve
i think another frustration is since united the form has dipped, theyve just got a point at bournemouth, we are going to end up 16th or 17th when we could have kicked on and finished higher, giving us more money to spend with psr and looking a better prospect for signings
Whoever they wanted is probably employed. They wanted to ride with Dyche till the summer and get there guy in.
That still might happen.
Aye that’s definitely the impression I got as well. Don’t have a whole lot of faith they’ll get the next one right either.
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