Sounds painful
David Moyes thinks Fellaini could become Cahill's long term replacement in the hole.
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Sounds painful
efcfanwirral
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Thoughts of that have been beaten out of me by moyes over the last 11 years. I don't even consider it anymore.
In fact, for much of 2012 I was so indoctrinated in the ways of David moyes (and scarred by the end to 2011) that I was actually pleasantly surprised at seeing even just the one striker on the team sheet.
Im still pleasantly surprised with just the one defender in midfield too...I used to complain about that...
Total disagreement with many of the points here, by far his best postition is in the hole - he doesnt even play there in the conventional sense. Is everyone barking.
Elong
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Get Charlie Adams in!
Would be boss mate, if QPR go down i wouldnt mind that Barton lid!
Anything that breaks up Neville/Osman is a good thing, they cant compete together through sheer lack of athleticism, But Moyes has got it stuck in his head now, so dont expect it to change until 2 years after most fans want it to
He's so much better in the deeper role it's insane.
Even against Southampton, he was throwing tackles, chasing around and intercepting balls effectively when he dropped deeper, but did absolutely sod all up top.
Still makes me laugh the other week when people had selective memory about his midfield ability.
Even against Southampton, he was throwing tackles, chasing around and intercepting balls effectively when he dropped deeper, but did absolutely sod all up top.
Still makes me laugh the other week when people had selective memory about his midfield ability.
My sole point about that was that if we were going to move him back into midfield to replace our current duo (which I think we should do) is that it would be a Neville-Fellaini partnership you'd be getting rather than an Osman-Fellaini one.
I stand by that. Fellaini doesn't and never has played the role Neville does.
Neville doesn't have a role, he just fills space. Like a Mancunian traffic cone.
That said, when Neville dropped to right back against Southampton, Fellaini was the direct replacement for a reason.
He wasn't though. Osman played behind Fellaini.
collymcd
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Central midfield is probably the most important of the pitch. Even if moving Fellaini back in to midfield means weakening our strikeforce then so be it. Fellani & Gibson need to start controlling the middle again and the rest will fall in to place wit the players we've got. I just hope Moyes sees this.
Not really, it's just that Fellaini's game was box to box, Osman remained the static "playmaker" (even though he did none of that at all against Southampton unfortunately) on the halfway line. So Felli was both behind and ahead of Osman depending on the phase of play.
Ultimately, that was a Fellaini/Osman partnership and we looked a lot better when we reverted to that.
Narrow the final third, use our talented full backs on the overlap on both sides, not just the left, get Pienaar and Anichebe supporting Jelavic a lot more closely so he isn't crowded out, stop hitting Fellaini with the long ball all the time and keep Neville out of midfield and Naismith out of Merseyside.
EDIT: Anichebe should be Mirallas FFS. Either/or really.
But that's precisely the distinction I was making. The classic two man midfield is a runner and a sitter.
One man who sits deep and one man who runs up and down. With neville and osman, neville is the sitter and osman the runner. Fellaini is a runner, Gibson a sitter. A Fellaini Osman partnership would have Osman doing what nevile does not what osman usually does (which is mostly wander over to the left wing and play one twos with pienaar and baines until they reach the edge of the penalty area where he can shoot at the goal and miss).
If Moyes drops back Fellaini it'll be Felli-neville not Felli-osman.
Felli-Gibson is probably our best midfield mind but only in an alternative unvierse where Gibson ever actually plays.
And there is a big part of the Problem. Moyes gets fixated, blinkered.
We went to America one season and finished 4th we went there for 'kin years and didn't
Cahill did well in the hole or even was the whole.....4-6-0?
Fellaini has a blinder Vs a United caught cold on the 1st game as the season......
and how long did He keep at it when Tim was well past his use by date 12mths - 18mths.
It didn't take long for Others and Stoke to suss Fellaini out, but he has scored many of his goals with his feet coming in later from deep.
He Fellaini, is, unlike Moyes more than a one trick pony
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