David Moyes interview.

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Minimeister said:
The reception he got when he left says all you need to know how grateful the fans were. The fact he lasted 11 years on a shoestring budget while putting together teams who consistently challenged for Europe is all that matters for a lot of people. 3 managers serving up absolute guff and being chased out the club since would also back that up.
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How would any of the other managers have done if they got 11 years to work with? By modern standards Moyes would have been gone after his second season (I wouldn't have got rid personally...)

We did pay good wages by the way, roughly akin to our league positions. This gets overlooked in the shoestring budget stuff.

He did alright.
 
Papa Shango said:
How would any of the other managers have done if they got 11 years to work with? By modern standards Moyes would have been gone after his second season (I wouldn't have got rid personally...)

We did pay good wages by the way, roughly akin to our league positions. This gets overlooked in the shoestring budget stuff.

He did alright.
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A great point that I ALWAYS make when referring to moyes, no doubt he did a good job but he was given so much time, that is unheard of in football these days. couple of bad results and you are gone... we had a season were we just about stayed up he would have been gone under 99% of owners
 

So can Everton not complain that there manager was tapped up by another club while he was still our manager?

Liked Moyes but don't forgive him. He could have signed a new contract with us and United still would have wanted as Ferguson recommended him. Could have got £5 million off them.
 
evertonarntwe said:
A great point that I ALWAYS make when referring to moyes, no doubt he did a good job but he was given so much time, that is unheard of in football these days. couple of bad results and you are gone... we had a season were we just about stayed up he would have been gone under 99% of owners
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In fairness he gained that time by first of all easing us away from the drop when he first joined (situation was more dire then people remember) then he had a good season the season after just missing out on Europe. The horror season that followed we were bizarrely never in danger of relegation at any point despite the low position. So against the backdrop of continuously battling relegation where was the logic of firing a manager who had comfortably avoided it for 2 seasons and had shown he was capable of a top half finish (a rare occurrence back then). We were probably the equivalent of a Sunderland or Palace then, they wouldn’t fire anyone providing prem safety and fortunately neither did we.

People can moan about what he did after Everton but judging him for purely what he did when he was at the club I think he’s one of the most important managers in our entire history. We were absolutely swirling the drain when he came in and tbh on a financial knife edge. A relegation would probably have destroyed the club and we could now be looking at a lower league existence or even liquidation. Instead we had European football, revamped academy, overhauled recruitment (sadly regressed backwards since). People can decry this but no other club outside the top 6 has survived in the prem in this period. Every single other one has gone down at some point, all of them. What made us the exception? The good management of Moyes. ‘Yeah but he didn’t win at the top 4 and knife to a gun fight la’ says the fools who can’t see the bigger picture. Moshiri, Brands, Silva, Richarlison, the new stadium, USM Finch Farm. None of these things happen for Everton without David Moyes. Had he slipped up even once the club might not have been here.

People should thank their stars every single day that David Moyes walked through the door in 2002 and not Roberto Martinez or Ronald Koeman.
 
Touch of the Tony Blairs about this. You can blame Collina all you like, but you were a serial bottler who belittled the club with all your talk about "shopping at Aldi" and "knife to a gunfight", making yourself out to be a genius at the expense of the club's reputation. I admire the way he did well with little money, but his limitations have long since been exposed.
 
Surely what's happened since he left makes it incredibly obvious why he got so much time, because he was doing a bloody good job. He's no hero, and truth be told i'd had enough of him by the time the end came because I wanted us to freshen things up, but why on earth would we have sacked someone who had massively improved us, and was quite clearly doing a better job than most of the people we could have replaced him with? He wasn't 'lucky' to get given time, he'd earned it.
 
Lanolin said:
Surely what's happened since he left makes it incredibly obvious why he got so much time, because he was doing a bloody good job. He's no hero, and truth be told i'd had enough of him by the time the end came because I wanted us to freshen things up, but why on earth would we have sacked someone who had massively improved us, and was quite clearly doing a better job than most of the people we could have replaced him with? He wasn't 'lucky' to get given time, he'd earned it.
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I don’t see the contradiction in recognising he did a good job but also realising it was time to freshen things up and he’s said a few stupid things after he left. It seems it has to be either or where Moyes is concerned though. What is clear though is that regardless of how poorly Moyes has done at other clubs after Everton, the managers who have followed him through the door here have not got anywhere near his levels of consistency and performance.
 

Yeah the way he left did leave a bitter taste but watching that I can’t help but like the guy. At the end of the day it was one of the biggest jobs in football at the time, no one is turning that down.
I’ve got a lot of respect for what he did here and listining to that and looking back the man worked utter miracles. He got us back onto a decent level and gave us a good base to push on, it grates on me that we haven’t used that base and still hanging around mid table.
He always got a lot of stick for the knife to a gun fight shout, I could never get my head around why because he was right. sell to buy and 5 mill a year isn’t going to make you compete with the big teams, and yet he consistently finished in the top half and gave me the pleasure of seeing the blues at Wembley. We spend hundreds of millions now and are still bringing a knife to a gun fight.
 
If the Silva project fails, I would have Moyes back then. Yeah he burned bridges, acted like a moron but he always got what every team he had here working hard and no one was saying the players were shirkers. They would be sold or dropped if they wernt giving their all. I always liked Moyes..i appreciate I am in the minority here though.
 
Tony1985 said:
Yeah the way he left did leave a bitter taste but watching that I can’t help but like the guy. At the end of the day it was one of the biggest jobs in football at the time, no one is turning that down.
I’ve got a lot of respect for what he did here and listining to that and looking back the man worked utter miracles. He got us back onto a decent level and gave us a good base to push on, it grates on me that we haven’t used that base and still hanging around mid table.
He always got a lot of stick for the knife to a gun fight shout, I could never get my head around why because he was right. sell to buy and 5 mill a year isn’t going to make you compete with the big teams, and yet he consistently finished in the top half and gave me the pleasure of seeing the blues at Wembley. We spend hundreds of millions now and are still bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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His best teams would absolutely wipe the floor with us now. Imagine prime Arteta Pienaar Cahill Donovan Fellaini with Yakubu Baines Lescott etc. up against the likes of Schneiderlin Gueye Davies Keane Kenny. Would be embarassing.
 
thebluenosebolt said:
If the Silva project fails, I would have Moyes back then. Yeah he burned bridges, acted like a moron but he always got what every team he had here working hard and no one was saying the players were shirkers. They would be sold or dropped if they wernt giving their all. I always liked Moyes..i appreciate I am in the minority here though.
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But that's based on moyes from several years ago, hes been an absolute disaster since and has shown football has well and truly past him by
 

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