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[Moomin]

What I suspect happens is that throughout the day, you spend your time bitterly muttering to yourself in anger because your life didn't turn out as planned. During those times, you envision conversations you *think* you had with GOT posters, because thinking of clever responses to posts on GOT is one of the highlights of your sad day. What happens then is that you start to actually believe you and a given GOT poster had a conversation about a given topic that you imagined out of thin air even though this exchange never happened.

For example, the "empty planes" bit you just conjured out of thin-air despite me not ever bringing it up, nor caring about it, given our discussion was about the hockey stick graph. Yet you continue to hammer on about it, here, here here, here, here, here, here, and here (while puzzlingly claiming it isn't your "ace in the hole" argument). Even the logic of your sad obsession doesn't make sense: climate change is made up because airline companies need to fly empty planes back and forth to preserve their routes?? This is the type of logic I would expect of someone who can barely write coherent sentences.

As another example, you claimed I was "whinging" about "zero emissions." But a simple search would reveal that I never once have brought up "zero emissions" on this thread or indeed the entire forum. So again you had an imaginary conversation with yourself while waiting for your parole officer to finish lunch, and you thought about this so much, it became reified in your mind to the point where you claim I was whinging about it. But you didn't check this because evidence is inconvenient to you.

More generally, as I've mentioned several times, you don't understand how science works, as you claim that "science is never settled" thereby implying consensus can't be achieved. This is simply false, as I pointed out to you using examples regarding gravity, evolution, and other settled issues where scientific consensus is achieved. So you are simply wrong.

I find it funny that you claim to be suspicious of MSM and make claims about thinking independently and doing your own research. This is ironic in light of you posting youtube videos discussing or featuring some of the most predictably right-wing ideologues, such as reaction videos involving noted homophobe/misogynist Jesse Lee Peterson, or the eminently milquetoast and predictable Larry Elder. But I guess when you have trouble writing coherent sentences it's best to let videos do the talking for you, even though this undercuts the image of yourself being an independent thinker.

As to my own expertise, I'm a scientist and I do have expertise in climate warming, having run some stochastic climate models for their influence on wildlife; further my colleagues and I have been planning a course on climate change. I am not a climate scientist per se, but I'm fairly certain I have more expertise than you in both science and also in the science of climate change. My expertise has been amassed over 25 years of reading, thinking, and doing science. Your "expertise" has been amassed by watching clever and wrong "reaction videos" on youtube, coupled with a major case of Dunning Kruger.

One place where I am admittedly not an expert is psychotherapy. But given you have trouble writing coherent sentences, have admitted that you have limited reading comprehension (you called and easily understood sentence "word salad"), that you imagine conversations/exchanges about topics that never occurred, that you refuse to face any evidence that doesn't fit your narrative, that you clearly overestimate how clever you are...in all this, you might want to seek therapy. But again, I'm not an expert in this field.

In any case, this is my last response to you as I don't have the time or patience to interact with the unteachable. You can treat my future non-responses to you as a victory, as I suspect these small victories mean more to you than me as you go about your day angry at the world.

 

[Goat]

With climate change accellerating he's only Sub-Zero 8 months of the year.

Bit-Chilly for 4 months.

 

[Amw79]

Jesus wept. There’s takedowns and there’s takedowns. This is the latter.

 

[Oddball]

What I suspect happens is that throughout the day, you spend your time bitterly muttering to yourself in anger because your life didn't turn out as planned. During those times, you envision conversations you *think* you had with GOT posters, because thinking of clever responses to posts on GOT is one of the highlights of your sad day. What happens then is that you start to actually believe you and a given GOT poster had a conversation about a given topic that you imagined out of thin air even though this exchange never happened.

For example, the "empty planes" bit you just conjured out of thin-air despite me not ever bringing it up, nor caring about it, given our discussion was about the hockey stick graph. Yet you continue to hammer on about it, here, here here, here, here, here, here, and here (while puzzlingly claiming it isn't your "ace in the hole" argument). Even the logic of your sad obsession doesn't make sense: climate change is made up because airline companies need to fly empty planes back and forth to preserve their routes?? This is the type of logic I would expect of someone who can barely write coherent sentences.

As another example, you claimed I was "whinging" about "zero emissions." But a simple search would reveal that I never once have brought up "zero emissions" on this thread or indeed the entire forum. So again you had an imaginary conversation with yourself while waiting for your parole officer to finish lunch, and you thought about this so much, it became reified in your mind to the point where you claim I was whinging about it. But you didn't check this because evidence is inconvenient to you.

More generally, as I've mentioned several times, you don't understand how science works, as you claim that "science is never settled" thereby implying consensus can't be achieved. This is simply false, as I pointed out to you using examples regarding gravity, evolution, and other settled issues where scientific consensus is achieved. So you are simply wrong.

I find it funny that you claim to be suspicious of MSM and make claims about thinking independently and doing your own research. This is ironic in light of you posting youtube videos discussing or featuring some of the most predictably right-wing ideologues, such as reaction videos involving noted homophobe/misogynist Jesse Lee Peterson, or the eminently milquetoast and predictable Larry Elder. But I guess when you have trouble writing coherent sentences it's best to let videos do the talking for you, even though this undercuts the image of yourself being an independent thinker.

As to my own expertise, I'm a scientist and I do have expertise in climate warming, having run some stochastic climate models for their influence on wildlife; further my colleagues and I have been planning a course on climate change. I am not a climate scientist per se, but I'm fairly certain I have more expertise than you in both science and also in the science of climate change. My expertise has been amassed over 25 years of reading, thinking, and doing science. Your "expertise" has been amassed by watching clever and wrong "reaction videos" on youtube, coupled with a major case of Dunning Kruger.

One place where I am admittedly not an expert is psychotherapy. But given you have trouble writing coherent sentences, have admitted that you have limited reading comprehension (you called and easily understood sentence "word salad"), that you imagine conversations/exchanges about topics that never occurred, that you refuse to face any evidence that doesn't fit your narrative, that you clearly overestimate how clever you are...in all this, you might want to seek therapy. But again, I'm not an expert in this field.

In any case, this is my last response to you as I don't have the time or patience to interact with the unteachable. You can treat my future non-responses to you as a victory, as I suspect these small victories mean more to you than me as you go about your day angry at the world.

very defensive i`ll say- haven`t read it all but i expected the "i`m jumping ship" bit - its ironic, rats are the first off a sinking ship

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

very defensive i`ll say- haven`t read it all but i expected the "i`m jumping ship" bit - its ironic, rats are the first off a sinking ship

I've read it all about 8 times so far. It's dead good.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

very defensive i`ll say- haven`t read it all but i expected the "i`m jumping ship" bit - its ironic, rats are the first off a sinking ship

Touche'

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Touche'

Call it a draw?

 

[Goat]

very defensive i`ll say- haven`t read it all but i expected the "i`m jumping ship" bit - its ironic, rats are the first off a sinking ship

Do a barrel roll Oddball.

 

[Oddball]

@verreauxi - the Constabulary of village idiots have all turned up!

i`ll go through the fan-boy comments later - i doubt they`ll stick around for that though

 

[Rita_Poon]

Bit-Chilly for 4 months.

the rain in spain falls mainly on the empty plane...

 

[Jebus_lives]

thanks for the sentiment it`s much appreciated, but there`s really no need to be concerned about me

i`ve never been a victim and never will be. your attempt to belittle me with that "victimhood" snot will not work

you`re like the grifters/white liberals who constantly degrade Blacks by telling them that they are eternal victims.

on this forum you`re just trolling but out in society its destructive on many levels

sadly, i don`t think you or the race-baiters/grifters will change

So many words. Yet you can't manage to write 'yes' or 'no'.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I have visions of him reading that and not understanding a single word.

He's struggling with Yes or No. That's way beyond him.

 

[Jebus_lives]

@verreauxi - the Constabulary of village idiots have all turned up!

i`ll go through the fan-boy comments later - i doubt they`ll stick around for that though

Parole officer due?

 

[LostLegend]

 

[Oddball]

As to my own expertise, I'm a scientist and I do have expertise in climate warming, having run some stochastic climate models for their influence on wildlife; further my colleagues and I have been planning a course on climate change. I am not a climate scientist per se, but I'm fairly certain I have more expertise than you in both science and also in the science of climate change. My expertise has been amassed over 25 years of reading, thinking, and doing science. Your "expertise" has been amassed by watching clever and wrong "reaction videos" on youtube, coupled with a ma
In any case, this is my last response to you as I don't have the time or patience to interact with the unteachable. You can treat my future non-responses to you as a victory, as I suspect these small victories mean more to you than me as you go about your day angry at the world.

for starters- why the need for so much ad-hominem waffle?

you say you`re impatient/bored but take all that time kaking up the already backed up sewer of rubbish you call a post

you`re a "scientist" ? - shut the front door- but but but- you`ve given me too much to work with here.

anyway- i`m an observer and i`ve noticed some stuff- firstly lets get that inconvenient fly out of your ointment - the empty planes-

on page 102 - time 9.00 you posted "no matter what evidence you are faced with"

i replied at 9.16 "what evidence?" then continued answering with the "carbon trading" and "empty planes"

for some reason you have stated it was "another poster" i was talking to (as if that ever mattered)

i think "carbon trading" and "empty planes" are valid points to bring up when the general public are being told to limit their car journeys.

now the bit in bold- you (and @Pretender17) will carry on stinking the place out with your presence while pretending you`re ignoring me-
if you can`t answer my questions just say so - running away looks bad and is so undignified. (just say you`re bored, no one will notice)

are you really a scientist? really? even though you come across as a fly-swat salesman can i call you Prof.?

edit- sorry but i still haven`t read all of your post