Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting

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I mostly enjoy reading this thread, especially when nonsense is spouted. I don't usually comment but the "Climate warming is due to the Earth being closest to the sun in 13,000 years" is a new one.

Did my "own research", turns out that's drivel
that link you posted is kindergarten to Grade 2 level guff.

maybe the reason you don`t comment much is because you`ve got nothing to say worth listening to.
 
Both interesting reads on the grift of Black Republicans courting white voters with prejudiced/racist views. So crazy.


voting ? ?

always about the politics with you ain`t it.

"if voting changed anything, they`d make it illegal"
 
the country bumpkins that try to bait me do dis-engage but only until someone like you with a bit of "scientific jargon" pops up to reignite their fuses.
then they explode into another bout of "we`ve got him this time"
they think i`m a political animal that needs taking down so they`ll always come back for more- don`t waste your time on them, they`re in a cult, they see themselves on a mission to eradicate "wrong think"

i`m open to being educated - school me, don`t just link rubbish like Carl Sagan who is a z-list author of tosh and that Mickey Mouse "carbon curve" piffle.

you do know the famous "hockey-stick" graph was debunked ages ago don`t you.

if you think the simpletons in this thread can educate me then fine but first they`ll have to understand that the Earth has vast cycles and that plants absorb co2 meaning the more plants/trees there are the more co2 absorbed.

anyone with half a brain knows we need to stop habitat destruction for quite a few reasons.

talking of money and making millions- who pays the "climate scientists" and would they be out of a job if they didn`t follow the narrative
You see the problem here don't you? If you claim a priori that you don't believe in MSM or a given source like Carl Sagan (who, along with David Attenborough, has done more to inspire millions of people into science--what exactly have you done along these lines?) then no matter what evidence you are faced with you will always retreat into something along the lines of "I don't believe it" "they are part of a money-making conspiracy" "peer-reviewed research means nothing" etc. etc. You can see why this is tiresome, yes?

Because I can predict the future, let's try this: You write "you do know the famous "hockey-stick" graph was debunked ages ago don`t you" and this statement is simply untrue. This graph has withstood both scientific scrutiny (which counts for a lot) as well as various idiots from Libertarian think-tanks and other non-expert climate deniers with youtube accounts (which doesn't count for anything). The graph reflects a robust temperature trend that is best explained by human "forcing." The latest version combines several independent studies that all speak to the same trend of human-induced climate forcing. This is reported here, in the journal PNAS:


There are several other independent peer-reviewed sources that can speak to the robustness of the hockey-stick graph, while, on the other hand, there are very few peer-reviewed sources that argue against it. Since you brought up the hockey-stick graph, what expertise do you personally draw from to make a conclusion about this robustness of this study? And what do you make of it more generally?
 
the country bumpkins that try to bait me do dis-engage but only until someone like you with a bit of "scientific jargon" pops up to reignite their fuses.
then they explode into another bout of "we`ve got him this time"
they think i`m a political animal that needs taking down so they`ll always come back for more- don`t waste your time on them, they`re in a cult, they see themselves on a mission to eradicate "wrong think"

i`m open to being educated - school me, don`t just link rubbish like Carl Sagan who is a z-list author of tosh and that Mickey Mouse "carbon curve" piffle.

you do know the famous "hockey-stick" graph was debunked ages ago don`t you.

if you think the simpletons in this thread can educate me then fine but first they`ll have to understand that the Earth has vast cycles and that plants absorb co2 meaning the more plants/trees there are the more co2 absorbed.

anyone with half a brain knows we need to stop habitat destruction for quite a few reasons.

talking of money and making millions- who pays the "climate scientists" and would they be out of a job if they didn`t follow the narrative
I don't think that is how most people would describe you.
 
a quick one first - "no matter what evidence i`m faced with"!!!- don`t be so naive - what evidence?

"climate science" is a made-up money spinner to fleece gullible fools like us and to add insult to injury the Ceo`s, exec`s and policy makers have made up another term called "carbon trading" one of the benefits is that airlines can fly empty planes to keep their flight slot.
 
a quick one first - "no matter what evidence i`m faced with"!!!- don`t be so naive - what evidence?

"climate science" is a made-up money spinner to fleece gullible fools like us and to add insult to injury the Ceo`s, exec`s and policy makers have made up another term called "carbon trading" one of the benefits is that airlines can fly empty planes to keep their flight slot.
Are you responding to my post? "Evidence" as it seems you are unaware, means data (usually numerical, but can also be qualitative) that speaks to a systematic pattern that would allow one to draw a conclusion. In the case of the hockey stick graph, the evidence is the long-term temperature data amassed by hundreds of various weather stations, ocean cores, etc. These values speak to a pattern of unprecedented warming in recent times.

In any case, do you need more time to evaluate the article I linked to?
 
Hoping you don’t take too much enjoyment from it
Zero, I dialed it back a while ago, this and the Ukraine thread fiasco are thoroughly depressing. Tryin to have a laugh, lifes painful and serious enough. Not feeling to great at the moment, found out just after 8pm that someone I know has been found having hanged himself. RIP Chris. I thoroughly hate what you've done, but I can't imagine how bad things were to get you to that point mate. :'(
 
Zero, I dialed it back a while ago, this and the Ukraine thread fiasco are thoroughly depressing. Tryin to have a laugh, lifes painful and serious enough. Not feeling to great at the moment, found out just after 8pm that someone I know has been found having hanged himself. RIP Chris. I thoroughly hate what you've done, but I can't imagine how bad things were to get you to that point mate. :'(
Rip Chris.
Hoping you manage to keep your chin up, Rita P
 
Are you responding to my post? "Evidence" as it seems you are unaware, means data (usually numerical, but can also be qualitative) that speaks to a systematic pattern that would allow one to draw a conclusion. In the case of the hockey stick graph, the evidence is the long-term temperature data amassed by hundreds of various weather stations, ocean cores, etc. These values speak to a pattern of unprecedented warming in recent times.

In any case, do you need more time to evaluate the article I linked to?
i didn`t look at it- i will now.

any thoughts on the airline flight slots kept open by flying empty planes?
 
that link you posted is kindergarten to Grade 2 level guff.

maybe the reason you don`t comment much is because you`ve got nothing to say worth listening to.

*awaits for university level guff..............

Pretty ironic that I've been accused of "nothing of worth to say" from someone who says nothing on an hourly basis
 
Are you responding to my post? "Evidence" as it seems you are unaware, means data (usually numerical, but can also be qualitative) that speaks to a systematic pattern that would allow one to draw a conclusion. In the case of the hockey stick graph, the evidence is the long-term temperature data amassed by hundreds of various weather stations, ocean cores, etc. These values speak to a pattern of unprecedented warming in recent times.

In any case, do you need more time to evaluate the article I linked to?
"long term data" ?- you mean a few decades of research

i had a quick look at that link you posted and boy-o-boy is that fella right up his own keister!

- its a word salad meant to blind you with science. i`m sure you`ve heard of that term but never equated it with you yourself being the one blinded.

it is nonsense, tailor-made for the likes of you.
 
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