Someone was saying our players were having a go at him today? Any more to that?
That’s it in a nutshell. Martina is what he is for all to see. Koeman brought him in believing he could cover left back too, so failed to register Garbutt and let Galloway and Connolly go out on loan, all better cover at left back. And let’s not go there with the right back decision of not playing Kenny earlier.I don't even blame him for being gash, I blame Koeman for abandoning him with us.
I thought Williams was truly awful. Martina just made him look good. Holgate also useless.Williams played really well mate.
It's absolutely shocking we have gone into the season with one aging injury prone left back. Of the four players who could provide cover, one was ruled out by injury for the whole season, 2 were sent out on loan (1 on deadline day) and the 4th was not included in either the PL or EL squads. On top of that we knew our 1st choice right back was out until the new year at the very earliest.No, Holgate doesn't deserve to be moved out of position, I'd give one of the u23s a go at lb in midweek
Should have cleared the hall , made a half hearted tackle and the RS player just went through him into the box.Someone was saying our players were having a go at him today? Any more to that?
Someone was saying our players were having a go at him today? Any more to that?
Sorry mate you’re wrong, with his better physicality Lewis Gibson would be better left back cover than FouldsIt's absolutely shocking we have gone into the season with one aging injury prone left back. Of the four players who could provide cover, one was ruled out by injury for the whole season, 2 were sent out on loan (1 on deadline day) and the 4th was not included in either the PL or EL squads. On top of that we knew our 1st choice right back was out until the new year at the very earliest.
21yo Holgate and 20yo Kenny, playing in their proper positions in front of a 23yo keeper, are the only things holding our pathetic defence together, and that's only come about due to luck and injuries. It would be madness to move either of them out of position.
If Keane is now fully fit again I'd probably move him in alongside Holgate as Williams is a liability, same as Jagielka. Neither are as sharp as they used to be and are both guilty of mistiming tackles in and around the box because of it. I saw the same thing happen to Carragher across the park but he had enough nous to get out. Neither of them are good enough at this level any more.
At left back we either need to continue with Martina, or try one of the kids. Not Feeney. I'd have him cover at CB until we can bring somebody else in. Either Matty Foulds or Lewis Gibson, both left footers. Foulds has a bit more experience at U23 level so I'd probably go with him.
It would most likely be the youngest back 5 ever played in the Premier League, but we have history in this regard. Our defence that started the 1984/85 season comprised Big Nev (25), Gary Stevens (21), Degsy Mountfield (21), Ratters (23 capt) Psycho Pat (23).

I thought Williams was truly awful. Martina just made him look good. Holgate also useless.
Still all good. Better to be useless and get a point than fight like a lion and lose.
He was a freeby, at least we won't have to take a hit,when we get shut.Williams? Having a go then encourage him to get dig in.
He had a mare end off!
He had a mare end off!
Never want too see him play again after that !
He was a freeby, at least we won't have to take a hit,when we get shut.
I'll happily bow to your greater knowledge.Sorry mate you’re wrong, with his better physicality Lewis Gibson would be better left back cover than Foulds![]()