summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
First day pitch.
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Chris O'Connor
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That's not the view of several journos there, Somerset are on a warning already, have form and the second last ball of the FIRST day turned alarmingly to dismiss Davies.
Somerset might be cryarseing about the pitch after this match which is likely to end in 1.5 days or less when they begin their far more important battle with the umpires and pitch inspectorate, their own coach is trying to say nothing will happen, but few believe him.
This could cost them very dearly indeed with some huge penalties looming.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
The cricket may well be immaterial, the important match will start when it ends with Somerset in the dock
What are the precedents for this? I've seen fines and point deductions in the past for the offending team, but not sure if the result has ever been changed or the opposition team being given points.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
On a warning, points deduction very likely and it'll be far more than the 16 for winning. No there won't be a reversal of the result, its possible draw points awarded although unlikely.
Lancs may have a case though as Somerset got off with only a warning last year vs Middlesex and if losing draw points results in relegation yet again as it did with Middlesex, it would be highly embarrassing, but either way it'll end their hopes of the championship.
The publicity could also significantly dent the England chances of Leach and Bess as their wickets will be significantly devalued and may just be dismissed as 'only achieved at Taunton'.
The worst knock on effect for Somerset is that they'll find it hard to attract any quality batsmen, and spinners too may think this pitch is far too helpful and any achievements just dismissed as worthless.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Need two warnings in a year for any penalty.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...stiffened-penalties-sub-par-pitch-preparation
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
THIS LOOKS ON FOR LANCS
Crucially the Somerset Middlesex game which resulted in a written warning for Somerset finished on the 28th September 2017 and therefore falls within the 12 month catchment time period where a second below average mark opens them up to the possibility of being liable to a penalty which could even be either the16 or 20 points being awarded to Lancashire with zero to Somerset which would be the case automatically for any 'unfit' pitch regardless of second offences and completely regardless of the cricket or match result.
From the article posted with important bits highlighted...
Whereas, in the past, pitches had to be rated 'poor' or even 'unfit' to incur a penalty, the new regulations state that "Two or more Below Average pitches in a 12-month period, rated so because of sub-standard performance relating to spin, seam or unevenness, if allied to intent would liable to penalty."
Ahead of the 2016 season, the ECB announced several other measures designed to encourage better pitches. In particular, they announced that visiting captains would be able to choose to bowl first in the Championship without the need to utilise a toss of the coin and they declared that away sides would be awarded 16 or 20 points (depending on the number of bonus points already won) if the home side prepared an "unfit" pitch. The home side would get no points from the match irrespective of any bonus points already won. Those regulations remain in place for the 2017 season.
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Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
(Just to clear up the 'below average' comment above as it doesn't imply 49.9999% of pitches will be below average as in the 'mean average' but rather used in the sense it is an 'average' or 'sub-standard' wicket not good enough for first class cricket.)
So by 'below average' it doesn't mean the mean or even median average of all marks for all pitches, as 100% should be above 'average' as its meant in the context they intend.
To further clarify it's used rather in the context of a mark that a pitch only declared as average or 'ordinary' should attain or a sort of 'par' mark that all pitches should pass, so in-effect to get below this is a substandard pitch even if not as bad as a completely poor or 'unfit' pitch
The judgement will be made shortly after completion of the game by the match ECB cricket liaison officer (CLO) Dean Cosker in combination with the two onfield umpires Jeremy Lloyd's and Paul Baldwin.
If it's marked 'below par' there is usually an ongoing investigation the day after by another and second CLO, comes in.
(No idea why this is perhaps an overseeing by a more senior official)
He'll conduct an investigation and he will go through the match CLO's findings and speak to both umpires, both captains and the groundstaff, he could downgrade it, he could upgrade it, that's entirely up to him. He looks at the evidence and he makes his own call.
And so it's a call by an ECB official and so could easily be very subjective with all the conspiracy theories of what's the best outcome no doubt flying around too.
So by 'below average' it doesn't mean the mean or even median average of all marks for all pitches, as 100% should be above 'average' as its meant in the context they intend.
To further clarify it's used rather in the context of a mark that a pitch only declared as average or 'ordinary' should attain or a sort of 'par' mark that all pitches should pass, so in-effect to get below this is a substandard pitch even if not as bad as a completely poor or 'unfit' pitch
The judgement will be made shortly after completion of the game by the match ECB cricket liaison officer (CLO) Dean Cosker in combination with the two onfield umpires Jeremy Lloyd's and Paul Baldwin.
If it's marked 'below par' there is usually an ongoing investigation the day after by another and second CLO, comes in.
(No idea why this is perhaps an overseeing by a more senior official)
He'll conduct an investigation and he will go through the match CLO's findings and speak to both umpires, both captains and the groundstaff, he could downgrade it, he could upgrade it, that's entirely up to him. He looks at the evidence and he makes his own call.
And so it's a call by an ECB official and so could easily be very subjective with all the conspiracy theories of what's the best outcome no doubt flying around too.
..Lancashire 20-3, could be over by lunch.
davids
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Given the remarks about the pitch,might actually end up being beneficial.
..I somehow doubt it but fingers crossed.
We have a 26 run lead. We've only got 4 wickets left mind but at least they have to bat again.
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..Livingstone gave it a bit of a bash, if there is a plus it’s him being back. Let’s hope Bohannon can stick around for a bit but a lead of 120 is probably required to make them a bit nervy.
Gone. 119/7.
..yep, just noticed that.