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Chris O'Connor
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Yes Stokes for Curran is the only change.
It must have been an extremely difficult decision to have to make, but if you're objective is just to pick the strongest eleven available for selection, then as one of the first names down on the team sheet, he really had to play.
They will have a look at the whole Stokes incident, including it's effect as regards to any disrepute charges, soon after this test match with the disciplinary committee. Of course being filmed fighting in the street at such an hour, for whatever reason, is totally and absolutely deplorable imo, and he shouldn't just be welcomed back as some kind of victorious pugilist, but nevertheless on cricketing terms alone, he had to play.
The comments from Nasser Hussein that the easy option is to say he's just missed the ashes tour (and New Zealand test matches and been stripped of the vice captaincy) and we shouldn't just end it there, is to my mind grandstanding and not even vaguely recognising just how significant, and just how severe, such a punishment is.
The ashes can't be trivialised in such a manner, as though it's not the absolute pinnacle, and competing in such a series very often the greatest privilege possible. It's achievements and disappointments are remembered long after, and personal goals achieved in such a series exactly what you strive for, what you really want to be remembered for, it is the absolute zenith for English and Australian cricketers.
By minimising the severity, and stating rather hypocritically that he was still on full wages, while just conveniently ignoring that any suspension would have been on full wages too, is almost engaging in the new competition now running on some channels and in some publications, that is of advocating the harshest and most punitive measures imaginable, and then if possible, adding even more the next day too, as if by doing so it will somehow confirm his own moral identity and just what an outstanding human being he actually is, there is a balance to be struck and it is possible to go too far.
Sam Curran will be incredibly unlucky, he's done nothing wrong and has been an outstanding success, his return is set to be very swift indeed, and he should be straight back into the team for the next test at Southampton.
The selectors have done the only thing really possible, as quite a few have said on here, it had to be a bowler who made way, and that really only meant Rashid or Curran. You don't weaken your weakest link, the batsmen had to remain.
The selectors have chosen to keep the spin option which really gave them little choice.
Sam Curran is extremely unfortunate but he should return straight after.
It must have been an extremely difficult decision to have to make, but if you're objective is just to pick the strongest eleven available for selection, then as one of the first names down on the team sheet, he really had to play.
They will have a look at the whole Stokes incident, including it's effect as regards to any disrepute charges, soon after this test match with the disciplinary committee. Of course being filmed fighting in the street at such an hour, for whatever reason, is totally and absolutely deplorable imo, and he shouldn't just be welcomed back as some kind of victorious pugilist, but nevertheless on cricketing terms alone, he had to play.
The comments from Nasser Hussein that the easy option is to say he's just missed the ashes tour (and New Zealand test matches and been stripped of the vice captaincy) and we shouldn't just end it there, is to my mind grandstanding and not even vaguely recognising just how significant, and just how severe, such a punishment is.
The ashes can't be trivialised in such a manner, as though it's not the absolute pinnacle, and competing in such a series very often the greatest privilege possible. It's achievements and disappointments are remembered long after, and personal goals achieved in such a series exactly what you strive for, what you really want to be remembered for, it is the absolute zenith for English and Australian cricketers.
By minimising the severity, and stating rather hypocritically that he was still on full wages, while just conveniently ignoring that any suspension would have been on full wages too, is almost engaging in the new competition now running on some channels and in some publications, that is of advocating the harshest and most punitive measures imaginable, and then if possible, adding even more the next day too, as if by doing so it will somehow confirm his own moral identity and just what an outstanding human being he actually is, there is a balance to be struck and it is possible to go too far.
Sam Curran will be incredibly unlucky, he's done nothing wrong and has been an outstanding success, his return is set to be very swift indeed, and he should be straight back into the team for the next test at Southampton.
The selectors have done the only thing really possible, as quite a few have said on here, it had to be a bowler who made way, and that really only meant Rashid or Curran. You don't weaken your weakest link, the batsmen had to remain.
The selectors have chosen to keep the spin option which really gave them little choice.
Sam Curran is extremely unfortunate but he should return straight after.
Should have been Pope or Buttler to go for stokes. Absolutely no need to drop a bowler and have woakes at number 8 off the back of a century.
The young lad Curran has had a blinder and got dropped while guys have done nothing. It makes no sense.
The young lad Curran has had a blinder and got dropped while guys have done nothing. It makes no sense.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
The batting, and collapses nearly cost us the first test, and had us in trouble in the second at 89-4 at one stage, it is our weakest link.
it's a dreadful decision to have to make, but if given the task of picking your strongest possible eleven there were really only two choices imo
Rashid to Stokes or the incredibly unfortunate Curran
Ben Stokes has to be included on cricketing grounds alone and I think that's the premise they had to go by.
I personally think it being Trent Bridge, and a fair amount of cloud cover predicted, Adil Rashid will be largely unnecessary and he should have made way, but then they've chosen the other option.
it's a dreadful decision to have to make, but if given the task of picking your strongest possible eleven there were really only two choices imo
Rashid to Stokes or the incredibly unfortunate Curran
Ben Stokes has to be included on cricketing grounds alone and I think that's the premise they had to go by.
I personally think it being Trent Bridge, and a fair amount of cloud cover predicted, Adil Rashid will be largely unnecessary and he should have made way, but then they've chosen the other option.
Or buttler. So he can play for lancs
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Lancashire play away to Kent in the T20 quarter finals.
Those 2 quick wickets have made it a fairly even start. Kohli the key man in while the ball is still relatively new so need to get him early.
I'm guessing that terrible performance at home to Durham cost us a home tie?
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Early wicket for England (Broad), India 326-7.
It's certainly swinging this morning. Could be a tricky 40 minutes or so before lunch
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
County Championship resumes today ; Lancashire, third from bottom, are playing away to Surrey who are top. Good start for Lancashire - Surrey 41-3, Bailey 3-18
Dreadful batting. Both openers need to have a serious look in the mirror because they've thrown it away. The slightest hint of scoreboard pressure on this England side and they fold.