summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
First Roses hat-trick since 1968, and the first at Old Trafford since 1933.
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toffeejack
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as hat-tricks go root, williamson and bairstow is hard to top, three of the best test batsmen in the world, i'd say they're all top 20 in the world at least.
92/7 at the close. Simply not good enough.
Yet another failure for Hameed. I'd even back myself to get this guy out at the moment.
Yet another failure for Hameed. I'd even back myself to get this guy out at the moment.
..109 all out at stumps (Livingstone unable to bat having broken his thumb).
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Lancashire need a further 129 runs to win, closed at 194-6. Buttler made 59.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
You tell'em Adil.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/44975996
Adil Rashid: England spinner says Michael Vaughan's comments are 'stupid'
By Shamoon Hafez
BBC Sport
England v India, first Test Date: 1-5 August Time: 11:00 BST Venue: EdgbastonCoverage: Ball-by-ball Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra, Radio 4 LW and the BBC Sport website. In-play clips and live text commentary on the BBC Sport website and app. Full tour details
England leg-spinner Adil Rashid says former captain Michael Vaughan's comments about his recall to the Test squad are "stupid" and "do not matter".
Rashid, 30, was named in a 13-man squad for the first Test against India next week despite signing a white-ball-only contract at Yorkshire.
Vaughan described the decision to select Rashid as "ridiculous".
Rashid told BBC Sport: "He can say a lot and he thinks people might listen, but I don't think they do."
He added: "There has been a lot of hoo-ha.
"I don't see what the big deal is, with people talking about me being retired. I didn't say anything about retirement, which some pundits have said.
"It was not an easy decision, but when your country wants you and asks if you are available, you cannot just say no."
The first match of the five-Test series begins on 1 August at Edgbaston.
'Vaughan is bored - people have no interest in him'
Rashid has taken 38 wickets at an average of 42.78 in 10 Tests for England, the most recent of which came in India in December 2016.
In February, he signed a contract with Yorkshire to play only limited-overs cricket in 2018. He has not played a first-class match since September 2017.
Writing in the Telegraph, Vaughan called his Test selection a "stab in the back for the county game".
He accused Rashid of being "a bit dozy" and "unprofessional" for not "being bothered" to play for Yorkshire in the Roses match against Lancashire in the County Championship last week.
Rashid said: "His opinions do not matter to anybody.
"When I mentioned at the start of the year I will not be playing red-ball cricket, he tweeted something then. He was being controversial and saying his stupid things then too.
"A lot of people have got no interest in what he says. It is about getting people to like what he says.
"I don't think he has an agenda against me. I played under and with him but sometimes ex-players come out and start talking nonsense about current players.
"If he wants to carry on talking just because he is bored with nothing better to say, then that is his choice.
"There will be people out there who are not happy. There will be haters, like the pundits who are saying it is a disgrace. That is not my fault."
Vaughan said his selection sent out a message that "our county game, the finishing school for our cricketers, does not matter any more and that it is irrelevant".
He added: "I've nothing against Adil. He is a good kid. He is a bit dozy but he is low maintenance and does not cause trouble.
"As a bowler he has done well in white-ball cricket but he has not been successful in Test cricket because he bowls too many bad balls."
Rashid took 5-64 against Pakistan in the UAE in his first Test'Yorkshire have not congratulated me'
Rashid has been a key figure in England's rise to the top of the International Cricket Council one-day rankings.
He took 18 wickets at an average of 22.61 to help them beat Australia 5-0 and India 2-1 this summer.
Rashid said after victory over India that he would consider playing Test cricket, despite not being available for Yorkshire for first-class matches.
England national selector Ed Smith said the selection was a "one-off" and that players must play first-class cricket next year to be considered for the Test side.
Yorkshire chief executive Mark Arthur said they were "very surprised" by Rashid's recall, and director of cricket Martyn Moxon said they were "disappointed".
Asked if there was a lack of support from Yorkshire, Rashid said: "At times, there can be.
"They might be disappointed for various reasons, but it would have been nice if the chief executive or head coach could have said, 'well done, congratulations on being selected, good on you' - as opposed to being angry and upset for not playing red-ball cricket for them, even though I told them I would not be doing so.
"I did not do anything wrong in that sense. There is no reason for Yorkshire to react like this. It was not something I expected or wanted.
"It would have been nice to have got the support from your county or the people close to you, but if they do not want to give their support, that is their problem.
"I don't need anybody's support in that situation. I know what I want to do and achieve.
"If I give 100% and it goes well, it goes well. If it doesn't then I will still be happy.
"If they treat me like they have done, don't see any value in me and are disrespectful to me, I have to think about the future in terms of which county I play for."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/thingstodo/activity/aspire-active-camps-02
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/44975996
Adil Rashid: England spinner says Michael Vaughan's comments are 'stupid'
By Shamoon Hafez
BBC Sport
England v India, first Test Date: 1-5 August Time: 11:00 BST Venue: EdgbastonCoverage: Ball-by-ball Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 live sports extra, Radio 4 LW and the BBC Sport website. In-play clips and live text commentary on the BBC Sport website and app. Full tour details
England leg-spinner Adil Rashid says former captain Michael Vaughan's comments about his recall to the Test squad are "stupid" and "do not matter".
Rashid, 30, was named in a 13-man squad for the first Test against India next week despite signing a white-ball-only contract at Yorkshire.
Vaughan described the decision to select Rashid as "ridiculous".
Rashid told BBC Sport: "He can say a lot and he thinks people might listen, but I don't think they do."
He added: "There has been a lot of hoo-ha.
"I don't see what the big deal is, with people talking about me being retired. I didn't say anything about retirement, which some pundits have said.
"It was not an easy decision, but when your country wants you and asks if you are available, you cannot just say no."
The first match of the five-Test series begins on 1 August at Edgbaston.
'Vaughan is bored - people have no interest in him'
Rashid has taken 38 wickets at an average of 42.78 in 10 Tests for England, the most recent of which came in India in December 2016.
In February, he signed a contract with Yorkshire to play only limited-overs cricket in 2018. He has not played a first-class match since September 2017.
Writing in the Telegraph, Vaughan called his Test selection a "stab in the back for the county game".
He accused Rashid of being "a bit dozy" and "unprofessional" for not "being bothered" to play for Yorkshire in the Roses match against Lancashire in the County Championship last week.
Rashid said: "His opinions do not matter to anybody.
"When I mentioned at the start of the year I will not be playing red-ball cricket, he tweeted something then. He was being controversial and saying his stupid things then too.
"A lot of people have got no interest in what he says. It is about getting people to like what he says.
"I don't think he has an agenda against me. I played under and with him but sometimes ex-players come out and start talking nonsense about current players.
"If he wants to carry on talking just because he is bored with nothing better to say, then that is his choice.
"There will be people out there who are not happy. There will be haters, like the pundits who are saying it is a disgrace. That is not my fault."
Vaughan said his selection sent out a message that "our county game, the finishing school for our cricketers, does not matter any more and that it is irrelevant".
He added: "I've nothing against Adil. He is a good kid. He is a bit dozy but he is low maintenance and does not cause trouble.
"As a bowler he has done well in white-ball cricket but he has not been successful in Test cricket because he bowls too many bad balls."
Rashid took 5-64 against Pakistan in the UAE in his first Test'Yorkshire have not congratulated me'
Rashid has been a key figure in England's rise to the top of the International Cricket Council one-day rankings.
He took 18 wickets at an average of 22.61 to help them beat Australia 5-0 and India 2-1 this summer.
Rashid said after victory over India that he would consider playing Test cricket, despite not being available for Yorkshire for first-class matches.
England national selector Ed Smith said the selection was a "one-off" and that players must play first-class cricket next year to be considered for the Test side.
Yorkshire chief executive Mark Arthur said they were "very surprised" by Rashid's recall, and director of cricket Martyn Moxon said they were "disappointed".
Asked if there was a lack of support from Yorkshire, Rashid said: "At times, there can be.
"They might be disappointed for various reasons, but it would have been nice if the chief executive or head coach could have said, 'well done, congratulations on being selected, good on you' - as opposed to being angry and upset for not playing red-ball cricket for them, even though I told them I would not be doing so.
"I did not do anything wrong in that sense. There is no reason for Yorkshire to react like this. It was not something I expected or wanted.
"It would have been nice to have got the support from your county or the people close to you, but if they do not want to give their support, that is their problem.
"I don't need anybody's support in that situation. I know what I want to do and achieve.
"If I give 100% and it goes well, it goes well. If it doesn't then I will still be happy.
"If they treat me like they have done, don't see any value in me and are disrespectful to me, I have to think about the future in terms of which county I play for."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/thingstodo/activity/aspire-active-camps-02
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Iceland playing Switzerland at the weekend. A vignette on Icelandic cricket.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06fsh48
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06fsh48
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
Adil Rashid and Sam Curran start, Jos Buttler is vice-captain, Moeen Ali and Jamie Porter miss out.
England XI: Alastair Cook, Keaton Jennings, Joe Root (captain), Dawid Malan, Jonny Bairstow, Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler (vice-captain), Sam Curran, Adil Rashid, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.
I suppose there's some bowling variety in there; the swing of Anderson, the seam of Broad, the left arm of Curran, the unpredictability of Stokes, Leggies of Rashid and part-time off-spin of Root. Apart from an out-and-out quick, there's almost everything there.
Malan the obvious weakest link and under pressure to produce or he may find Moeen in the side as a second spinner if this extreme heat returns as predicted. With three of the following tests being in the south and two in London, Malan is set to be the fall guy with Moeen perhaps batting at four.
Root and Cook should be full of confidence and Cook and Jennings having given them a better opening partnership last time out (the first over 50 for some time) they have the perfect opportunity to start well against what looks a largely diminished seam attack.
Yadav is looking good and now perhaps their main threat. It looks as though he'll be partnered by Ishant Sharma, who still angles into right-handers mostly and Shami who apparently is looking painfully short of his best atm.
Their team news wasn't that heartening for India on the seam bowling front
Jasprit Bumrah, who impressed in his maiden Test series against South Africa, has not made the cut for the first Test after the thumb injury which he suffered during India's first T20I against Ireland. He will be available for inclusion from the second Test.
Uncapped Shardul Thakur therefore retained his place in the Test squad.
Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who aggravated a lower back condition in the third ODI against England has not been mentioned in the Test squad for England. His condition is being assessed by the BCCI medical team and a call on his inclusion will be made soon.
That's two from the attack that played the first and third tests in South Africa and so it seems to be falling apart before its even begun.
Yadav is decent and Shami can be useful although looking well short atm and their back up is looking painfully thin too with Pandya and Shardul the other options.
Ashwin who injured his finger, Jadeja, and the left-arm wrist-spinner Kuldeep Yadav had only limited time in the 18 a side three day game against an Essex squad team and as with the seamers surely should have had a better preparation.
India’s administrators will take the brunt of the blame if they find themselves completely under prepared for the first test. Major adjustments are needed when moving from white-ball limited-overs cricket to red-duke ball tests. Bowlers, especially quick bowlers, need overs in their legs and need to adjust to the more pronounced seam. Swinging it too much with width can be fatal.
Home advantage is always massive these days and increasingly more so, it seems a phenomenon that's getting even greater rather than diminishing. Play most of your tests at home or in similar conditions and rise up the rankings, the greater proportion of away tests the harder it is.
(Very difficult for Pakistan tbh - although they do have quality seamers too)
South Africa struggled in England (3-1) and despite beating India at home, massively struggled in Sri Lanka just confirming its often so difficult away even though it's a different story at home.
In their last two tours here India who play the vast majority of their tests on the subcontinent came as the number one or two ranked team although having a very poor away record.
2011 - England 4-0 (4 tests.)
2014 - England 3-1 (five tests)
so 7-1 in the last nine home tests.
The Duke ball and movement off the seam is so difficult for their batsman, even Kohli's average over here is far worse than elsewhere.
Pujara has been playing county cricket although that can be a few levels below test matches and form there often doesn't translate.
The bookies probably knowing home advantage often the key factor make England favourites around evens for both the first test and series with India around 2/1 for both.
England XI: Alastair Cook, Keaton Jennings, Joe Root (captain), Dawid Malan, Jonny Bairstow, Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler (vice-captain), Sam Curran, Adil Rashid, Stuart Broad, James Anderson.
I suppose there's some bowling variety in there; the swing of Anderson, the seam of Broad, the left arm of Curran, the unpredictability of Stokes, Leggies of Rashid and part-time off-spin of Root. Apart from an out-and-out quick, there's almost everything there.
Malan the obvious weakest link and under pressure to produce or he may find Moeen in the side as a second spinner if this extreme heat returns as predicted. With three of the following tests being in the south and two in London, Malan is set to be the fall guy with Moeen perhaps batting at four.
Root and Cook should be full of confidence and Cook and Jennings having given them a better opening partnership last time out (the first over 50 for some time) they have the perfect opportunity to start well against what looks a largely diminished seam attack.
Yadav is looking good and now perhaps their main threat. It looks as though he'll be partnered by Ishant Sharma, who still angles into right-handers mostly and Shami who apparently is looking painfully short of his best atm.
Their team news wasn't that heartening for India on the seam bowling front
Jasprit Bumrah, who impressed in his maiden Test series against South Africa, has not made the cut for the first Test after the thumb injury which he suffered during India's first T20I against Ireland. He will be available for inclusion from the second Test.
Uncapped Shardul Thakur therefore retained his place in the Test squad.
Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who aggravated a lower back condition in the third ODI against England has not been mentioned in the Test squad for England. His condition is being assessed by the BCCI medical team and a call on his inclusion will be made soon.
That's two from the attack that played the first and third tests in South Africa and so it seems to be falling apart before its even begun.
Yadav is decent and Shami can be useful although looking well short atm and their back up is looking painfully thin too with Pandya and Shardul the other options.
Ashwin who injured his finger, Jadeja, and the left-arm wrist-spinner Kuldeep Yadav had only limited time in the 18 a side three day game against an Essex squad team and as with the seamers surely should have had a better preparation.
India’s administrators will take the brunt of the blame if they find themselves completely under prepared for the first test. Major adjustments are needed when moving from white-ball limited-overs cricket to red-duke ball tests. Bowlers, especially quick bowlers, need overs in their legs and need to adjust to the more pronounced seam. Swinging it too much with width can be fatal.
Home advantage is always massive these days and increasingly more so, it seems a phenomenon that's getting even greater rather than diminishing. Play most of your tests at home or in similar conditions and rise up the rankings, the greater proportion of away tests the harder it is.
(Very difficult for Pakistan tbh - although they do have quality seamers too)
South Africa struggled in England (3-1) and despite beating India at home, massively struggled in Sri Lanka just confirming its often so difficult away even though it's a different story at home.
In their last two tours here India who play the vast majority of their tests on the subcontinent came as the number one or two ranked team although having a very poor away record.
2011 - England 4-0 (4 tests.)
2014 - England 3-1 (five tests)
so 7-1 in the last nine home tests.
The Duke ball and movement off the seam is so difficult for their batsman, even Kohli's average over here is far worse than elsewhere.
Pujara has been playing county cricket although that can be a few levels below test matches and form there often doesn't translate.
The bookies probably knowing home advantage often the key factor make England favourites around evens for both the first test and series with India around 2/1 for both.
Lancs are going to get relegated.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
It's fair to say that Yorkshire possibly can feel somewhat harshly treated with regards to his selection but almost all the most vehement criticism of his inclusion has come from the likes of Arthur, Moxon, Vaughan and Boycott all with deep Yorkshire connections and current sympathies, it might be suspected that a lot of this is because they feel Yorkshire have been badly treated.
Since Rashid or alongside him, England have tried Ansari, Batty, Crane, Leach, Bess, Dawson and Moeen, hardly any with really notable success in the spin department and most selected on the back of impressive county form, and so now it's back to Rashid and Moeen. However Jack Leach is still right in the picture and ready for the next test and Bess is training with the team and not at all discarded.
The bookended nature of the championship, now largely played in two blocks right at the start and right at the end of the season doesn't help either (last weeks set of games virtually the only exception).
Ed Smith has tried to mitigate it by saying it's a one-off, he'll need to commit in the future and pointing to Jennings and Porter as encouragement for county cricket fulfilling its main purpose.
Test cricket comes before county cricket and England have to pick their strongest team regardless of hardly anyone playing much red ball cricket recently.
They successfully gambled on Buttler on the back of the IPL and ODI's and now think with our best chance lies in picking our best spinner on current availability and form, the right gamble imo.
Ballot for the World Cup is open.
Be warned, it's not cheap.
Be warned, it's not cheap.
Joe Root getting run out on 80, what's that all about? Don't have Sky, will have to watch the highlights.
Absolutely no need to go for the second run. Doh!
1st session - good
2nd session - good
3rd session - awful..
Something like 82 -1 and 84-2 from first two sessions then 120-6...
Just tick along at 3 an over and accumulate, you've got 5 days lads!
2nd session - good
3rd session - awful..
Something like 82 -1 and 84-2 from first two sessions then 120-6...
Just tick along at 3 an over and accumulate, you've got 5 days lads!