Cricket

[toffeejack]

Roy should be a shoe in for the test team, I'd have Hales in there too maybe. They've proven they can do it on the international stage, so why not? They won't look as nervous and flaky as players like jennings.

 

[toffeejack]

Archer for Plunkett looks so obvious for the World Cup.

Jason Roy reminds me very much of David Warner, he has the technique and temperament to make a success of test cricket too.

Trevor Bayliss has already said he's one for the ashes and his red ball form for Surrey in the last two championship games just confirmed it.

I've been posting on him as a contender from well before the sri Lanka series he should have played in the tests here and Ed Smith the chief selector is known to really rate him.

(The less said about dropping the catch off Gayle the better lol)

It's difficult on archer, I mean could they really bring someone in who's not played for the team into a world cup team when someone like plunkett has helped them build as a team? It'd be a risk... And probably a risk not worth taking given their form. Is Sam curran on this one day tour? I'd have him or Willey ahead of wood tbh.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

It's difficult on archer, I mean could they really bring someone in who's not played for the team into a world cup team when someone like plunkett has helped them build as a team? It'd be a risk... And probably a risk not worth taking given their form. Is Sam curran on this one day tour? I'd have him or Willey ahead of wood tbh.

It wouldn't be a risk at all imo, it would seem like a huge upgrade.

Plunkett's pace has been dropping, he's getting older and can't get near the 90mph pace he once had, his slower variations aren't as effective when the pace differential is far lower and he's far too expensive on a regular basis.

Make no mistake it would be hard, and he has been exemplary in helping the side progress up to their current status, but the emphasis has to be on 'has', he has been a top performer and leading light, he has been one of the leading stars of our bowling attack and he has seen better days.

There is no room for sentiment in the winners enclosure, Archer is a bowler who can bowl very fast indeed and has a sparkling reputation as one of the very best on the short format T20 circuit. He would be a huge upgrade which England are likely to take when he becomes available.

There is noone on this tour who would be much of an upgrade, perhaps Willey's left armer's but they may as well stick with Plunkett. I fear his days are numbered and when Archer is available he will play.

Tom Curran, Sam's brother, is on tour and may play if not Plunkett or Willey.

 

[arminisgod]

Roy should be a shoe in for the test team, I'd have Hales in there too maybe. They've proven they can do it on the international stage, so why not? They won't look as nervous and flaky as players like jennings.

I don't think it's fair to county cricket to pick Roy as an opener when he doesn't open for Surrey. He needs to open at Surrey.

Hasn't Hales retired from red ball cricket?

 

[summerisle]

Highlights.

 

[toffeejack]

I don't think it's fair to county cricket to pick Roy as an opener when he doesn't open for Surrey. He needs to open at Surrey.

Hasn't Hales retired from red ball cricket?

I don't think it's fair to county cricket that as soon as rashid retired they started picking him for the test team but its obvious from that that the selectors won't consider those two things.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

I don't think it's fair to county cricket that as soon as rashid retired they started picking him for the test team but its obvious from that that the selectors won't consider those two things.

Yes agree with the general principle of picking your best eleven for the test team regardless of whether it's fair or not, we have to be ruthless.

One of county cricket's main purposes is to nurture future test cricketers but unfortunately at the present time, perhaps due to the lack of true pace with less overseas stars or indeed Kolpak players, it is no longer able to fully test the skills or attributes most needed by our senior test batsman.

As such it is not able to provide a reasonable testing environment for any budding batting talent, and as we we have seen recently with the revolving door policy of trying anyone and everyone (thst is doing well in county cricket) as either an opener or number three, it just doesnt produce candidates who come uoto scratch.

Tbf this is exacerbated by the time of year the four day game is now played, early and late Summer on bowler friendly often green wickets, where an out ball is often delivered in the very next over by some run of the mill bang average 75mph dibbly dobbler.

Surrey fully intended to play Jason Roy at three for an extended run at the end of last season but he got injured and only played the last two games making a 70 and a century.

He has experience of facing very quick bowling on a regular basis, a sound technique with good foot movement and big stride forward or back, he promises much and Bayliss has already hinted he is definitely in the frame for the ashes.

 

[summerisle]

For people with the attention span of a goldfish.

 

[Minimeister]

Still absolutely shocked in the turnaround of this team. Was really going off 50 over cricket with the introduction of T20 and Test matches becoming more exciting but this England team have rejuvenated one day cricket.

 

[Frang]

Still absolutely shocked in the turnaround of this team. Was really going off 50 over cricket with the introduction of T20 and Test matches becoming more exciting but this England team have rejuvenated one day cricket.

we have such a powerful batting line up. the likes never seen before, well not as deep, even up to 7 or 8 we have capable batsmen.

coupled with the great bowling of esp stokes and rashid, then we are going to be very hard to beat.

yesterday showed that we must be favourites for the world cup.. it was a monumental chase 360 was never heard of till a couple years back when 300 was an outstsanding score. to chase down 360 IN THE WINDIES … its one hell of a performance

 

[StreetEndBlue]

The turnaround in England's 50 over cricket compared to the outdated way we played in the 2015 World Cup has been nothing short of sensational.

It will take some team to stop us winning the World Cup in the summer particulary with it being played in our own conditions, though I'd fancy that team to win it anywhere given the cricket we are playing.

I'm dreaming of a World Cup and Ashes double! Now that would make it a summer to remember. Our side is certainly capable of it.

 

[summerisle]

 

[Frang]

Bad call.

They are 3 or at least 2 very different disciplines

 

[Chris O'Connor]

Seems to have envisaged three assistants under a coach with the assistants allowing for time off .....and perhaps taking on a tour themselves if he needs a break? Trevor Bayliss himself said this is needed as too much for one man, full time, all the time.

England plan to replace Trevor Bayliss with one head coach, rather than split the roles between red and white-ball specialists. “My feelings are now 99.9 per cent that we should have one coach,” said Ashley Giles, England’s new director of red cricket.

Giles plans to create a new coaching structure in the England team after the departure of assistant coach Paul Farbrace, who leaves after the series in the West Indies to take up Giles’s old position as director of sport at Warwickshire.

He envisages having three coaches share the functions of assistant between them. Giles confirmed that Paul Collingwood would be elevated to one of these roles for the World Cup, working in tandem with Graham Thorpe and Chris Silverwood - the batting and bowling coaches for the limited-overs team.

“I see it as one guy in charge - and be prepared for time off - and perhaps three assistant coaches, not just one, that helps share the burden. The top man has different voices to go to,” said Giles.

“I’d like those guys to work together and share that burden. One assistant puts pressure on him and communication. The structure starts now.”

Giles hopes that there will be continuity in the England set-up after Bayliss’ departure, which will be after the summer Ashes series.

“The most important thing is for someone to fit in our culture, Joe [Root], Morgs [Eoin Morgan], our senior players - that has to continue, we have to bed that in. Whoever comes has to fit with that, not the football mentality of a proper clear-out.”

Thoughts have not yet turned to who would replace Bayliss, though Giles believes Silverwood, who previously won the County Championship as Essex coach, could be a strong contender. “I think Chris Silverwood could do it,“ he said. “He’s got a very nice way about him hasn’t he? He’s a tough bloke, got a fair amount of discipline, communicates really well.”

England may delay the formal process of replacing Bayliss until after the summer. “What we don’t want is this massive distraction of a process during the World Cup or the Ashes,” Giles explained. “The whole focus for the team has to be on this summer and my job is to remove some of that interference.”

Ideally, Giles said, the coach would be English. “We need the best bloke to do it but it would be nice at some point for us to have an English head coach. We’ve had one absolute head – I was white-ball head – in 20 years and he’s done it twice. That’s not great for our coach development.”

Giles said one of his roles was to ensure greater focus on the Test team. “There’s been a lot of focus on our white-ball cricket and that’s been the right thing to do but given the importance to Test cricket to us, and the world Test championship, we do need to swing that pendulum back nearer the middle.”

Building a culture in the England team, to outlast any single individual, is Giles’s biggest ambition, something clarified by discussions with Gareth Southgate.

“I spoke to Gareth last year a couple of times and was incredibly impressed with the stuff he's done. The really important thing to me is that we bed in this culture piece. In the 20 years I've been involved it's been a word we've used a lot and it's never really happened. You put words on the world, say 'we're gonna do this or that' but you really need to embed it. We've really got a chance this time because the players are leading it. That's unusual.”

Compared with the ODI team, the Test side was “immature,” Giles said. “By that I mean it's not fulfilled its potential.” Previously a selector himself, he praised Ed Smith’s work in 2018, but said, “In hindsight, which is a wonderful thing, we got a bit funky in the first West Indies Test.

“Some decisions with regard to selection have been a little bit forced because of where we are, particularly at the top of the order. But I'm very confident in what Ed does.”

 

[Frang]

Seems to have envisaged three assistants under a coach with the assistants allowing for time off .....and perhaps taking on a tour themselves if he needs a break? Trevor Bayliss himself said this is needed as too much for one man, full time, all the time.

England plan to replace Trevor Bayliss with one head coach, rather than split the roles between red and white-ball specialists. “My feelings are now 99.9 per cent that we should have one coach,” said Ashley Giles, England’s new director of red cricket.

Giles plans to create a new coaching structure in the England team after the departure of assistant coach Paul Farbrace, who leaves after the series in the West Indies to take up Giles’s old position as director of sport at Warwickshire.

He envisages having three coaches share the functions of assistant between them. Giles confirmed that Paul Collingwood would be elevated to one of these roles for the World Cup, working in tandem with Graham Thorpe and Chris Silverwood - the batting and bowling coaches for the limited-overs team.

“I see it as one guy in charge - and be prepared for time off - and perhaps three assistant coaches, not just one, that helps share the burden. The top man has different voices to go to,” said Giles.

“I’d like those guys to work together and share that burden. One assistant puts pressure on him and communication. The structure starts now.”

Giles hopes that there will be continuity in the England set-up after Bayliss’ departure, which will be after the summer Ashes series.

“The most important thing is for someone to fit in our culture, Joe [Root], Morgs [Eoin Morgan], our senior players - that has to continue, we have to bed that in. Whoever comes has to fit with that, not the football mentality of a proper clear-out.”

Thoughts have not yet turned to who would replace Bayliss, though Giles believes Silverwood, who previously won the County Championship as Essex coach, could be a strong contender. “I think Chris Silverwood could do it,“ he said. “He’s got a very nice way about him hasn’t he? He’s a tough bloke, got a fair amount of discipline, communicates really well.”

England may delay the formal process of replacing Bayliss until after the summer. “What we don’t want is this massive distraction of a process during the World Cup or the Ashes,” Giles explained. “The whole focus for the team has to be on this summer and my job is to remove some of that interference.”

Ideally, Giles said, the coach would be English. “We need the best bloke to do it but it would be nice at some point for us to have an English head coach. We’ve had one absolute head – I was white-ball head – in 20 years and he’s done it twice. That’s not great for our coach development.”

Giles said one of his roles was to ensure greater focus on the Test team. “There’s been a lot of focus on our white-ball cricket and that’s been the right thing to do but given the importance to Test cricket to us, and the world Test championship, we do need to swing that pendulum back nearer the middle.”

Building a culture in the England team, to outlast any single individual, is Giles’s biggest ambition, something clarified by discussions with Gareth Southgate.

“I spoke to Gareth last year a couple of times and was incredibly impressed with the stuff he's done. The really important thing to me is that we bed in this culture piece. In the 20 years I've been involved it's been a word we've used a lot and it's never really happened. You put words on the world, say 'we're gonna do this or that' but you really need to embed it. We've really got a chance this time because the players are leading it. That's unusual.”

Compared with the ODI team, the Test side was “immature,” Giles said. “By that I mean it's not fulfilled its potential.” Previously a selector himself, he praised Ed Smith’s work in 2018, but said, “In hindsight, which is a wonderful thing, we got a bit funky in the first West Indies Test.

“Some decisions with regard to selection have been a little bit forced because of where we are, particularly at the top of the order. But I'm very confident in what Ed does.”

Wonder if this is the way strauss would have gone?