Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Bruce Wayne]

Why aren't the media reporting details about these cases in the uk?

All well and good saying 50 cases but if those 50 cases have the sniffles only then it's not quite the same as the most extreme version of it.

Still feels to me like it's no real difference than the flu itself much like swine flu this decade didn't go on a widespread deadly spree . Seems in all this panic and media driven hysteria people are forgetting there was another flu emergency in recent years that amounted to next to nothing.

If the media stopped talking about it for a week , noone would be worried. Hearing about it 24/7 is creating hysteria like it's the black plague when in fact it really isn't any more dangerous than any other virus you can catch.

I pondered this today. If there was a media blackout, would most people just go about their business as usual?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Consider it from this angle, as in, not the danger to life per ce.

The media does indeed shut up, and folk generally forget about it. So it spreads. Quickly. Hundreds of avoidable hospital admissions duly follow, which puts intolerable strain on the NHS, and shunts other stuff it does down the pecking order as well.

Then this small % of deaths kinda becomes a large actual number of people. (Plus others denied NHS treatment, see above)

It isnt a danger to people, now. It isnt really a danger to the NHS, now.

So this programme is designed to keep it that way.

*shrug

Dunno mate. Italy has far and away the most cases in Europe to date, and the recorded cases there represent 0.00005% of the overall population. You do wonder if we're not getting a 'tad' carried away.

 

[roydo]

*shrug

Dunno mate. Italy has far and away the most cases in Europe to date, and the recorded cases there represent 0.00005% of the overall population. You do wonder if we're not getting a 'tad' carried away.

If we had 7 people in hospital, I would agree. Total over reaction. But as you well know, Mrs Bruce doesnt regale you with tales of how under used the NHS is. And I didnt count many empty beds in the Bristol BRI recently.

Thats the issue. Not the % numbers. Its the ability to cope with a significant increase of patients, when that increase can be kept to as few as possible.

The message maybe is wrong perhaps.

 

[RAFUH]

*shrug

Dunno mate. Italy has far and away the most cases in Europe to date, and the recorded cases there represent 0.00005% of the overall population. You do wonder if we're not getting a 'tad' carried away.

Its a hard balance. Containment is the way to limit how many are effected. You have to make folks take it serious enough to follow guidelines and self isolate as needed to limit spread without panicking the others.

Given the current environment of over reaction (in both directions) and the media feeding into both, it was never going to go well.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If we had 7 people in hospital, I would agree. Total over reaction. But as you well know, Mrs Bruce doesnt regale you with tales of how under used the NHS is. And I didnt count many empty beds in the Bristol BRI recently.

Thats the issue. Not the % numbers. Its the ability to cope with a significant increase of patients, when that increase can be kept to as few as possible.

The message maybe is wrong perhaps.

For sure, for some people it's quite probably going to be horrible, no doubts at all. Just not sure if it warrants the apparent national emergency. I mean in 2008, around 13,000 people were said to have died from the bog standard flu, and I don't recall there being demands for things to be shut down and the army on the streets keeping order. In the summer of last year, there were concerns that a particularly virulent form of flu is going to hit in the summer from Australia, where it had killed a few hundred people. Again, I don't recall the mass losing of heads over it. Indeed, I suspect many still neglected to get the flu jab, despite the warnings.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Its a hard balance. Containment is the way to limit how many are effected. You have to make folks take it serious enough to follow guidelines and self isolate as needed to limit spread without panicking the others.

Given the current environment of over reaction (in both directions) and the media feeding into both, it was never going to go well.

By all means, distribute guidance and so on to help people behave in the right way, but with stories of racism towards people of Chinese origin, it does seem to have gone a bit far. Hand on heart, how many of us would go out for a meal in Chinatown at the moment? Is that a rational perspective?

 

[roydo]

For sure, for some people it's quite probably going to be horrible, no doubts at all. Just not sure if it warrants the apparent national emergency. I mean in 2008, around 13,000 people were said to have died from the bog standard flu, and I don't recall there being demands for things to be shut down and the army on the streets keeping order. In the summer of last year, there were concerns that a particularly virulent form of flu is going to hit in the summer from Australia, where it had killed a few hundred people. Again, I don't recall the mass losing of heads over it. Indeed, I suspect many still neglected to get the flu jab, despite the warnings.

Cos the health service is used to that. Its normal.

Agree about the army bit though. Need them more for Black Friday or what ever its called.

Like all folk need to do is wash their hands more, and the problem will most likely go away, as a major concern. I have become a bit anal about it, but thats probably driven as much by having Mrs R home, and its the last thing she needs ffs.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If we had 7 people in hospital, I would agree. Total over reaction. But as you well know, Mrs Bruce doesnt regale you with tales of how under used the NHS is. And I didnt count many empty beds in the Bristol BRI recently.

Thats the issue. Not the % numbers. Its the ability to cope with a significant increase of patients, when that increase can be kept to as few as possible.

The message maybe is wrong perhaps.

Incidentally, Mrs Bruce has just said that her building is being used as a screening clinic, which will see people walking past a school and a baby clinic. Genius. Oh, and the building was due for demolition next month.

 

[RAFUH]

By all means, distribute guidance and so on to help people behave in the right way, but with stories of racism towards people of Chinese origin, it does seem to have gone a bit far. Hand on heart, how many of us would go out for a meal in Chinatown at the moment? Is that a rational perspective?

Agreed the racism component is horrible and in the US feeds into the ongoing xenophobia propagated by our POTUS.

I had Chinese last night ...wasn’t in Chinatown. Not sure there is one here.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

By all means, distribute guidance and so on to help people behave in the right way, but with stories of racism towards people of Chinese origin, it does seem to have gone a bit far. Hand on heart, how many of us would go out for a meal in Chinatown at the moment? Is that a rational perspective?

I'd probably avoid enclosed spaces with lots of people in them to be honest, regardless of the ethnicity of the people within them

 

[roydo]

1st UK death reported. As in here, not a gammon on a cruise.

 

[peteblue]

1st UK death reported. As in here, not a gammon on a cruise.

“A statement from Royal Berkshire NHS Trust said: "Sadly, we can confirm that an older patient with underlying health conditions has died. The patient has previously been in and out of hospital for non-coronavirus reasons, but on this occasion was admitted and last night tested positive for coronavirus.“.....

 

[Archie Knox]

By all means, distribute guidance and so on to help people behave in the right way, but with stories of racism towards people of Chinese origin, it does seem to have gone a bit far. Hand on heart, how many of us would go out for a meal in Chinatown at the moment? Is that a rational perspective?

I'm going for a Chinese tonight!

 

[LinekersLegs]

*shrug

Dunno mate. Italy has far and away the most cases in Europe to date, and the recorded cases there represent 0.00005% of the overall population. You do wonder if we're not getting a 'tad' carried away.

On the plus side it is going to be fascinating to see the data on seasonal flu rates pre and post coronavirus outbreak as everyone thinks more about personal hygiene.

Hopefully will lead to more healthy people having a seasonal flu jab as well.

 

[peteblue]

I'm going for a Chinese tonight!

*prays for Archie......