Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Vegas Toffee Girl]

Ok, the DM is trying to scare people about the Hantavirus. I familiar with it because I used to live in New Mexico, where most of the US cases have occurred.

Most cases happen when people are cleaning their house, garage, shed, or barn, etc. and they come in contact with infected rodent droppings, urine, saliva, nesting materials, or particles from these.

Rare cases of human-to-human transmission have happened in Chile and Argentina.

Most of the US cases are in the western states. New Mexico has had 109 cases since 1993. We have mice here in Vegas that are infected, about 13% of the population I think. Nevada has had 28 cases since 1993.

There is nothing to worry about for most of the population. I don't know about the infection rates for the rest of the world. If you come across rodent droppings, etc. check online to see if there is Hantavirus in your area. You can do a wet clean up (no vacuums or brooms) or get a professional.

Man who died on bus in China tests positive for virus RATS spread

The victim died on a vehicle in Shandong as he made his way to work and was found to be suffering from hantavirus, which infected rats spread through bites, droppings, urine and saliva.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hantavirus Disease, by State of Reporting | Hantavirus | DHCPP | CDC

www.cdc.gov

 

[tsubaki]

Oh, there might have been the odd case causing some fatalities bobbling along for longer than first thought, but it's extremely hard to see the rationale behind that and up to 50% herd immunity having already been reached. If we're anywhere near that level of immunity, you wouldn't expect the virus to be spreading so quickly now.

For us to currently have any decent herd immunity would require the virus to be even more contagious than the the R value of 2.5, you'd have to be somewhere between that and measles in an unvacinnated population for it to be spreading at it's current rate, and it would have had to mutate to cause the extra hospitalisations we're seeing here, and in other European countries.

I'd really, really love to be wrong though.

Thats true, and that article does read as if the journalist really wanted to get herd immunity in there somewhere and so made it sound as if 50% were safe already (which is not what the study appears to say).

However the idea that its far more widespread than is being indicated by current testing - which the media persist in using - has a lot of sense behind it, I think (especially given the lag in identifying it both in China and elsewhere).

 

[Goat]

About damn time

Dont trust that little weasel me yano.

 

[LostLegend]

A Meme account here, pushing harder truths than the bloody media is!

 

[LinekersLegs]

Oh, there might have been the odd case causing some fatalities bobbling along for longer than first thought, but it's extremely hard to see the rationale behind that and up to 50% herd immunity having already been reached. If we're anywhere near that level of immunity, you wouldn't expect the virus to be spreading so quickly now.

For us to currently have any decent herd immunity would require the virus to be even more contagious than the the R value of 2.5, you'd have to be somewhere between that and measles in an unvacinnated population for it to be spreading at it's current rate, and it would have had to mutate to cause the extra hospitalisations we're seeing here, and in other European countries.

I'd really, really love to be wrong though.

Found this an interesting thread

 

[Catfish Blues]

which is not what the study appears to say

It kind of does actually
It's at https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxmu2rwsnhi9j9c/Draft-COVID-19-Model (13).pdf?dl=0 if you havn't read it. I only skimmed it though tbh.

 

[Goat]

 

[LinekersLegs]

A Meme account here, pushing harder truths than the bloody media is! lol

5) ”Unskilled workers” are key to keeping an economy working

 

[LinekersLegs]

That is a “one in a million winner” lottery tickets you really don’t want

 

[Goat]

That is a “one in a million winner” lottery tickets you really don’t want

Im clinging on to the fact that viruses mostly mutate to a less deadly strain so much.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

How you holdin' up, England?

 

[Goat]

How you holdin' up, England?

Utterly terrified, WBU murica?

 

[tsubaki]

It kind of does actually
It's at https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxmu2rwsnhi9j9c/Draft-COVID-19-Model (13).pdf?dl=0 if you havn't read it. I only skimmed it though tbh.

It is sort of foreign to me but they appear to be saying that the reported figures so far could fit three possibilities, of which one is that the first infection was 4 days prior to first detection and 38 days prior to the first death, which is the one that claims 68% of the population would have it by 19th March. Obviously that is the one the FT picked as it was the most newsworthy (to them).

The herd immunity thing is just something they assume as part of the usual nature of viruses.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Utterly terrified, WBU murica?

Not too crazy 'round here...no perma lockdown as of yet, although I'm hearing things about some stuff possibly going down this Friday if people don't heed the warnings about staying home. Other half is about to lose her mind, seeing as she works in a hospital...more worried about getting something and then giving it to me than she is getting it herself. Telling her my life insurance policy will set her up for life didn't quite work as intended.

Strange times...any sort of lockdown could be interesting in a fully armed country so I'm hoping, for my fellow civil servants, it doesn't happen.

Feel sorry for the public, though, as there's a lot of mixed messaging. The whole thing's 'kin strange, if you ask me.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

Utterly terrified, WBU murica?

Oh, and don't be terrified...just keep your eyes on the prize.