Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There are more and more whisperings about heart problems from the vaccines, particularly Pfizer it seems.

A friends husband dropped dead from a heart attack a few weeks a go. The wife talked to the doctor and he has hinted at vaccine issues.

Another friend of mine has been suffering heart palpatations for last two years. His doctor also said that they have seen a massive increase in heart complaints since the vaccinations rolled out..

Hmmm...

At least the big Pharma companies are going to be ok seeing as the government granted them immunity from prosecution..
 
There are more and more whisperings about heart problems from the vaccines, particularly Pfizer it seems.

A friends husband dropped dead from a heart attack a few weeks a go. The wife talked to the doctor and he has hinted at vaccine issues.

Another friend of mine has been suffering heart palpatations for last two years. His doctor also said that they have seen a massive increase in heart complaints since the vaccinations rolled out..

Hmmm...

At least the big Pharma companies are going to be ok seeing as the government granted them immunity from prosecution..
Could be any number of reasons for this that are not vaccine related including long term effects of covid itself. I notice any time someone dies of heart problems, a lot of people are quick to say this is vaccine related etc. without any real evidence.

Would require a large scale longitudinal study to see if there was any significant link.
 
Could be any number of reasons for this that are not vaccine related including long term effects of covid itself. I notice any time someone dies of heart problems, a lot of people are quick to say this is vaccine related etc. without any real evidence.

Would require a large scale longitudinal study to see if there was any significant link.
Nobody ever had heart issues before COVID.

Heart attacks were unheard of 3 years ago.
 
Could be any number of reasons for this that are not vaccine related including long term effects of covid itself. I notice any time someone dies of heart problems, a lot of people are quick to say this is vaccine related etc. without any real evidence.

Would require a large scale longitudinal study to see if there was any significant link.
Indeed, so many potential confounders at play too.
 
Could be any number of reasons for this that are not vaccine related including long term effects of covid itself. I notice any time someone dies of heart problems, a lot of people are quick to say this is vaccine related etc. without any real evidence.

Would require a large scale longitudinal study to see if there was any significant link.
Nobody ever had heart issues before COVID.

Heart attacks were unheard of 3 years ago.
Just saying like...

The missus surprisingly brought it up because her sister said to her she's going for another covid jab on Saturday. Jab 6 or 7 or something.. She's only 46. Didn't think it was necessary at that age any more!
 
Just saying like...

The missus surprisingly brought it up because her sister said to her she's going for another covid jab on Saturday. Jab 6 or 7 or something.. She's only 46. Didn't think it was necessary at that age any more!
Crikey.

I've had 3 and I'm not far off that age.

But as above, just having COVID increases the risk of heart issues, add this cost of living crisis, world war 3 and it's no surprise that everybody is stressed. How we don't all drop dead daily is a mystery to me.

Just had to pay 300 quid for a boiler repair, so I might be off myself soon.
 
Just saying like...

The missus surprisingly brought it up because her sister said to her she's going for another covid jab on Saturday. Jab 6 or 7 or something.. She's only 46. Didn't think it was necessary at that age any more!
It’s a fairly contentious subject I think and is used by some to further a nefarious agenda.
Of course there could be a link but there are so many things at play here it’s impossible to say without thorough analysis. Would certainly expect a GP to know better.
 
Crikey.

I've had 3 and I'm not far off that age.

But as above, just having COVID increases the risk of heart issues, add this cost of living crisis, world war 3 and it's no surprise that everybody is stressed. How we don't all drop dead daily is a mystery to me.

Just had to pay 300 quid for a boiler repair, so I might be off myself soon.
Can you leave me your ‘likes’ in your will please mate.
 
Crikey.

I've had 3 and I'm not far off that age.

But as above, just having COVID increases the risk of heart issues, add this cost of living crisis, world war 3 and it's no surprise that everybody is stressed. How we don't all drop dead daily is a mystery to me.

Just had to pay 300 quid for a boiler repair, so I might be off myself soon.
It has been strongly noted that the pandemic itself helped accelerate a variety of health inequalities and outcomes, which had widened hugely already under Tory rule. Fair enough if the Pfizer vaccine does cause problems, but it's quite important to not focus on one thing.
 
It has been strongly noted that the pandemic itself helped accelerate a variety of health inequalities and outcomes, which had widened hugely already under Tory rule. Fair enough if the Pfizer vaccine does cause problems, but it's quite important to not focus on one thing.
I mean the vaccines arent flawless, they probably do create issues or rather increase risk in certain people.
 
There are more and more whisperings about heart problems from the vaccines, particularly Pfizer it seems.

A friends husband dropped dead from a heart attack a few weeks a go. The wife talked to the doctor and he has hinted at vaccine issues.

Another friend of mine has been suffering heart palpatations for last two years. His doctor also said that they have seen a massive increase in heart complaints since the vaccinations rolled out..

Hmmm...

At least the big Pharma companies are going to be ok seeing as the government granted them immunity from prosecution..
I look at it this way: if I had received Pfizer to start with rather than JNJ, I'm probably dead. Which is a long way from 'don't get vaccinated.'

I sensed myself going into an arrhythmia on a long hike a couple years back, which was a new one on me. The cause was excessive hydration and electrolyte imbalance due to heat, sweat and water consumption to counter the heat. Fingers swelled up, the whole nine yards in terms of causality. If I'm suffering from vaccine-induced myocarditis at the time after two Pfizer jabs, the second of which would have been a week or two prior, I'm probably in the ground rather than shrugging the whole thing off, getting a full cardiac workup a few days later and being told I'm the healthiest patient they've seen come through in years.

The lesson is not what people with an agenda want to say. The lesson is 'know the risks, know your risk profile and pick the right one.' I waited for real data before taking the plunge, because I could get away with it. The risks for me with JNJ were low and largely transitory, and the risks with Pfizer were less likely to obtain but potentially fatal. Easy call. The vaccine (and a Pfizer booster I took prior to winter when I knew I wouldn't be doing long hikes) probably saved me significant grief when the kids both brought COVID home in the next wave six months later, despite keeping the kids 100% up to date with a booster a month prior.

Nuance like that gets lost in this discussion. If you want an opinion, pulling JNJ was a terrible decision. They should have been jabbing patients with elevated cardiac risk with that one instead, and here we are.
 
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