I'll grant you, it is unfortunate that this has happened after the Brexit referendum.
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I'll grant you, it is unfortunate that this has happened after the Brexit referendum.
Adam-GOTTV
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I kinda understand why you'd think that but here's a good article from two virologists on why resources should be mapped else where. Worth a read: https://virologydownunder.com/past-...ly-go-pandemic-and-we-should-all-prepare-now/
Mildredblues
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Work places closed? Does that include shops, chemists and shopping centers for essentials? Why should they come to work?
So everyone will sit tight at home and wait it out?
You'll need painters as well to daub crosses on people's doors.
bullybeef
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Close everything cock.
It’s the only way to avoid a mass culling of the elderly and diseased.
Disgruntledgoat
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Re the “don’t test, don’t tell” article - the case they mention at UC Davies has caused huge disruption all by itself even if there are no other cases in the next month and all the healthcare workers end up being clear of the virus. All completely avoidable sadly.As a disease, Covid-19 is probably not nearly serious enough to merit that kind of response. It's not nothing, but it's not the Black Death either. Anyhow, now that the quarantine in China has clearly failed, what you suggest would serve mostly as symbolic gesture at this point, to make people feel that somebody somewhere is doing something. The window for containment has likely already passed, and while putting all of society on lockdown would slow the spread of the virus, the costs probably outweigh the benefits. Most likely this is something we're all just going to have to contend with from now on.
The impact is likely to be twofold: first, because state-engineered precarity has pushed citizens and public institutions to the breaking point, the social and economic impact will be much worse in Britain and America than would be the case in healthy societies. On current form, Britain and especially America will respond to this like slobbering toddlers relative to South Korea or even Vietnam. Due to its reliance on private insurance and finance, and Trump-administration cuts to the CDC, the United States lacks the medical infrastructure necessary to test never mind treat its affected citizens, and the government is already signalling that they are content to more or less sit back and let nature run its course. The UK will at least try to address the crisis, but the NHS is barely coping as it is, and also probably lacks the capacity to deal with thousands of people suddenly turning up violently ill. In both cases, the political fallout is anyone's guess, but given how (rightfully) disillusioned and cynical most voters have become, it seems naive and risky to assume it all fades with a whimper.
Second, the extent of the economic damage is still uncertain, but there's no shortage of indications that what's coming in the medium term could be serious indeed, again because ordinary people have been systematically pushed to the breaking point via dreadful fiscal policy; because US/UK/Eurozone austerity has made the West even more dependent on Chinese growth - the epicentre of the manufacturing crisis; because equities and real estate markets are well-known to be significantly overvalued; and because the Central Banks have pretty much exhausted all monetary options just to keep the whole mess afloat.
And, as John Authers (who is always very wise on such matters) notes, we are only just now beginning to get a sense of what this might mean in the medium term. It might prove the proverbial straw and it might not - but the mountains of corporate/household debt and obvious QE-driven stock and real estate bubbles are not indefinitely sustainable, and when the music stops, the geniuses who brought us austerity at the height of the worst recession in 80 years will have done just about everything they can to maximise the damage.
Some follow-up reading (If I may be so bold)
The Fall of Wuhan
Containment has failed. And so now we must fight. That means doing everything possible to bolster our healthcare systems BEFORE the need overwhelms the capacity. That means calling out our leaders for their corrupt political responses to date, and forcing them through our outcry to adopt an...www.epsilontheory.com
Don't Test, Don't Tell
The CDC's Don’t Test, Don’t Tell policy came crashing down last night. So did Trump’s “buh, buh the flu” and "Yay, Containment!" narratives. Now let's get to work preparing for the fight to come. Not in panic. Not in fear. But with resolve, sacrifice and righteous anger for those who would use...
UC Davis Coronavirus Case Forces 124 Health Care Workers To Self Quarantine
Possible exposure to a patient before her coronavirus was diagnosed at UC Davis Medical Center in Sacramento has forced the self quarantine of 124 health care workers including 36 nurses, an umbrella group of nurses unions nationwide announced Friday.
sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com
Zatara
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@Adam-GOTTV defo go on holiday...rumour in a few asian countries has been that it doesnt spread easily in the heat...
No idea if true but seems to be...
No idea if true but seems to be...
Heat would affect virus survival on surfaces that are exposed to that heat, but can't see how it would change person to person infection.
Not saying to avoid travel...just thinking out loud
Martin Alvito
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Both of these are extreme positions which are better suited to different situations.
Aggressive isolation and quarantine works for something serious enough that, when someone gets it, you know. It doesn't work well when you're dealing with something where the Korean numbers suggest that a quarter to a third of the people that get it may be asymptomatic. Ease of transmission coupled with minor/no symptoms is a recipe for something to go endemic.
That said, doing nothing is better suited to a situation where the virus has already gone endemic. Right now, a whole bunch of people are going to get this for the first time. If that all happens at once, the health care system will be overwhelmed and far more people will die than is strictly necessary.
So we do want to take some measures to slow down transmission, so that we're dealing with new infections over the course of months rather than weeks. That way, we don't run out of respirators and other forms of acute care necessary for survival, and we don't have half the staff at hospitals out with this thing at the same time.
The CDC already knows (and publishes) this, but I don't envy them the challenge of trying to implement it under a president who only cares about re-election, seems to measure his chances solely by financial market performance, and thinks he knows better than experts in any event.
Voodoo Billy
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It's interesting that they named it after the last election result, Conservative Victory Disease 2019.
davek
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The superiority of centralised planned societies. When the excrement hits the fan in a big way: wars/epidemics, the only effective way of dealing with them is to submit the people to the will of those in control.
summerisle
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It's truly the end of days.
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