Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Brennan]

Because people want a life with what time they have left, the past 18 months isn't living its merely being alive.
Last weekend a lad I knew for over 30 years dropped dead (Heart attack) at my age 45, there are no guarantees for any of us. There are hundreds of ways of dying and Covid is just one more.

Half of the worlds population would give anything to live the life that most Brits had to live the past eighteen months. Have a bit of perspective, you’re talking like we’ve all been in the trenches.

 

[tsubaki]

Because people want a life with what time they have left, the past 18 months isn't living its merely being alive.
Last weekend a lad I knew for over 30 years dropped dead (Heart attack) at my age 45, there are no guarantees for any of us. There are hundreds of ways of dying and Covid is just one more.

Some utter tosh that first sentence, and to be honest what you and others are advocating is precisely the sort of thing that will have us all back in lockdown.

COVID is like every other pandemic disease in that is beatable - all that is required is human ingenuity, proper effort and collective action. We could get to a situation where we have single numbers of deaths a day or lower and have our society still be open (in the way it was before), but it would require the government to bring in a protection system that worked and for the rest of us to all play our part by reporting when we are ill and isolating when required to prevent infecting others.

 

[Tipp blue]

Well, we don’t have 600000 flu deaths a year (it’s more like 8-16000) but you do raise a sort of point in that there are clearly things we can do to reduce the number we do suffer.

I'm talking worldwide. Approx 600,000 a year, mostly preventable via strict measures.

 

[Tipp blue]

How many flu deaths are there in August in the UK ?

When you look at those numbers and compare to the current Covid deaths I hope you’ll realise how daft it is to compare Flu to Covid as if we can live with them in the same way.

I don't know how many flu deaths there are in any given month in the UK. I would guess that nobody knows, if you counted everyone who dies with the flu, the number would be a lot higher than most would imigine.

 

[mill]

it’s absurd to me that people are still downplaying this virus. It’s killed millions of people *with* lockdown measures in place.

Without such measures it would have killed more and completely collapsed health services and the economy. The mental health burden would hsve been a lot worse.

 

[LostLegend]

Siri, show me the most American headline ever.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Some utter tosh that first sentence, and to be honest what you and others are advocating is precisely the sort of thing that will have us all back in lockdown.

COVID is like every other pandemic disease in that is beatable - all that is required is human ingenuity, proper effort and collective action. We could get to a situation where we have single numbers of deaths a day or lower and have our society still be open (in the way it was before), but it would require the government to bring in a protection system that worked and for the rest of us to all play our part by reporting when we are ill and isolating when required to prevent infecting others.

The vaccines are goosed now when it comes 12 to 15 age group.

If medical officers go ahead, just one death because of vaccine and confidence will be wrecked and there will be hell to play. More should have been done in schools over the summer like ventilation masks, the latter should have continued for all indoors.

We could have more or less gone about our business and leisure as we are now. Instead we all have to listen to man/women children blurt on about face nappies, sad acts.

 

[Mrk]

No matter what the JCVI recommended, we were always going to get 5% of the population furious because their default position is everything the UK does is wrong, and another 5% who believe vaccines are population control in disguise and therefore should not be given to anybody. Then there's everybody else who shrugs and accepts that the people tasked with making these decisions probably know what they're talking about.

 

[toffee82]

I think he was talking globally, but it’s more like 250000-500000 per year.

Meanwhile Covid has killed over 4 million in 20 months. Despite lockdowns across the world.

Once it becomes endemic the number of covid deaths will fall to be similar to flu (or even less with all the research money thrown at it).

 

[BlueStevie35]

No hospital figures reported for today, last Saturday’s late revealed total was 94

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 120 deaths were announced today, down 1 on yesterday and down 13 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 112.14

For the 60 day cut off, 143 deaths were announced today, down 2 on yesterday and down 6 on last Saturday. The 7 day rolling average falls to an even 130

 

[grandjoeblue]

The vaccines are goosed now when it comes 12 to 15 age group.

If medical officers go ahead, just one death because of vaccine and confidence will be wrecked and there will be hell to play. More should have been done in schools over the summer like ventilation masks, the latter should have continued for all indoors.

We could have more or less gone about our business and leisure as we are now. Instead we all have to listen to man/women children blurt on about face nappies, sad acts.

In fairness 1 death in 12-15 year olds from vaccination is too many when only 1 in a million in that age range ends up in ICU from COVID.

 

[PhilM]

In fairness 1 death in 12-15 year olds from vaccination is too many when only 1 in a million in that age range ends up in ICU from COVID.

Now, I've got to make it clear that I am not actually advocating the vaccination of this particular age group, but let's slightly play the Devil's advocate.

If vaccinating the 12-15 year old bracket killed one child yet helped reduce transmission in older brackets and saved two lives, would it be one too many?

What if it saved three? Or ten? A hundred... a thousand... In this scenario, it may boil down to what extent vaccinating this group may save x-lives in total.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Now, I've got to make it clear that I am not actually advocating the vaccination of this particular age group, but let's slightly play the Devil's advocate.

If vaccinating the 12-15 year old bracket killed one child yet helped reduce transmission in older brackets and saved two lives, would it be one too many?

What if it saved three? Or ten? A hundred... a thousand... In this scenario, it may boil down to what extent vaccinating this group may save x-lives in total.

Agree you're right that will have an impact. Its definitely a complex decision.

 

[Tramps_mate]

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Absolutely amazing.

My missus just read this.

I had to explain why the 'other 53%' isn't more likely... *Facepalm*

 

[Tubey]

My missus just read this.

I had to explain why the 'other 53%' isn't more likely... *Facepalm*

Divorce.