Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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No hospital figures reported for today, last Sunday’s late reported total was 2

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 6 deaths were announced today, down 8 on yesterday and down 2 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls slightly to 10.29

For the 60 day cut off, 8 deaths were announced today, down 16 on yesterday and down 8 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 17.43
 
Its time to get rid of mandatory isolation for the double vaccinated. Surely they could implement a process where you are sent a test and if you test negative you can then be tested every 1 or 2 days for a week or so? They're giving tests out like they're sweets so surely its doable.
 
So just read that these are the new symptoms for the Delta variant...

The Delta variant of Covid-19, first identified in India, has changed how the virus is spreading, and the measures governments have to take to stop it.

It has also changed the symptoms with a headache, sore throat and runny nose now the most commonly reported.


I mean, I have bad hayfever, I've literally had these exact symptoms for the last 3 weeks now.

In all seriousness, how the hell have they come to this? A headache, sore throat and runny nose? It's literally the middle of allergy season. And those are the common effects of any time you might feel a bit rough - from a hangover or a head cold.

It stinks.
 
So just read that these are the new symptoms for the Delta variant...

The Delta variant of Covid-19, first identified in India, has changed how the virus is spreading, and the measures governments have to take to stop it.

It has also changed the symptoms with a headache, sore throat and runny nose now the most commonly reported.


I mean, I have bad hayfever, I've literally had these exact symptoms for the last 3 weeks now.

In all seriousness, how the hell have they come to this? A headache, sore throat and runny nose? It's literally the middle of allergy season. And those are the common effects of any time you might feel a bit rough - from a hangover or a head cold.

It stinks.

It is probably more that they’ve asked people who’ve been confirmed to have delta COVID what symptoms they had, surely?
 
It is probably more that they’ve asked people who’ve been confirmed to have delta COVID what symptoms they had, surely?
Well, yes, surely.

The point is, the symptoms are remarkably identical to common everyday symptoms of anything else, and not actually the same as symptoms for COVID that we've known for the last 18 months (persistent cough, loss of taste/smell, fever etc).

Those are genuinely hayfever symptoms and symptoms of a general cold. Loads of people have them at this time of year. So I don't think saying those are the symptoms is in any way helpful.

And if they are the symptoms, then how is it even the same bloody virus? Must be completely different in nearly every way, surely? And the idea that people should be isolating or testing because of those symptoms is surely madness?

Nobody is being hospitalised with covid because of a runny nose or headache or even a sore throat. You get hospitalised if you're struggling to breathe, extremely feverous etc.
 
Well, yes, surely.

The point is, the symptoms are remarkably identical to common everyday symptoms of anything else, and not actually the same as symptoms for COVID that we've known for the last 18 months (persistent cough, loss of taste/smell, fever etc).

Those are genuinely hayfever symptoms and symptoms of a general cold. Loads of people have them at this time of year. So I don't think saying those are the symptoms is in any way helpful.

And if they are the symptoms, then how is it even the same bloody virus? Must be completely different in nearly every way, surely?

Nobody is being hospitalised with covid because of a runny nose or headache or even a sore throat. You get hospitalised if you're struggling to breathe

This is what viruses do, though - adapt, resulting in different symptoms and effects. It’s also important that the thing is picked up early, not only when someone has been hospitalised (given that it’s probably spread far more across a community by that point).

FWIW it’s also one of the reasons why I said months ago that we need to have a “you need to call up and get a test” threshold that covers a lot more ground than just the three classic main COVID things. Is doing that going to pick up colds, hay fever etc? Yes, and the vast majority of them probably will be benign things but the alternative is not identifying the COVID cases early enough.
 
This is what viruses do, though - adapt, resulting in different symptoms and effects. It’s also important that the thing is picked up early, not only when someone has been hospitalised (given that it’s probably spread far more across a community by that point).

FWIW it’s also one of the reasons why I said months ago that we need to have a “you need to call up and get a test” threshold that covers a lot more ground than just the three classic main COVID things. Is doing that going to pick up colds, hay fever etc? Yes, and the vast majority of them probably will be benign things but the alternative is not identifying the COVID cases early enough.

Understand that.

But no, I don't agree that the threshold can be that low, I'm sorry.

If you have people phoning up and having to isolate (whether that's for a few hours or a few days) because they have a runny nose or a tickly throat in the middle of hayfever season, then we're going the wrong way around it. You also aren't going to get people to do it, either, and not just for financial reasons.

The alternative is vaccinating and then getting on with life, and accepting that yes, some people will keep getting ill and will keep dying from COVID from now until forever more, probably.

We're going to have everybody over 18 offered the first dose at least by the middle of July. Which will mean, in theory, everyone who has taken up the offer fully vaccinated by late September.
 
9284 cases, 6 deaths, something's up with UK reporting. Some said deaths may be lagging but it's not issue, it's like this for months.

For comparison, GER had yesterday +558 cases, and 13 deaths. With that small amount of deaths, you gotta have 3 digit cases.
 
So just read that these are the new symptoms for the Delta variant...

The Delta variant of Covid-19, first identified in India, has changed how the virus is spreading, and the measures governments have to take to stop it.

It has also changed the symptoms with a headache, sore throat and runny nose now the most commonly reported.


I mean, I have bad hayfever, I've literally had these exact symptoms for the last 3 weeks now.

In all seriousness, how the hell have they come to this? A headache, sore throat and runny nose? It's literally the middle of allergy season. And those are the common effects of any time you might feel a bit rough - from a hangover or a head cold.

It stinks.
I had them last week. But I put it down to a hot week and not drinking enough water.. Ive done a home test this morning and been negative..
 
9284 cases, 6 deaths, something's up with UK reporting. Some said deaths may be lagging but it's not issue, it's like this for months.

For comparison, GER had yesterday +558 cases, and 13 deaths. With that small amount of deaths, you gotta have 3 digit cases.
It needs another 7-10 days to tell if deaths are rising due to the 9000 daily cases..
 
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