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Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Shocking...
What's the average amount of blood clot cases per 87,000 people?
I'd imagine it's higher than 1?
Don`t go for your second jab and sit it out the impending apocalypse in your bunker then ?
Simple really.
AZ the vaccine that’s emptied UK hospitals.
toffee82
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I would say that 31 in 2.7m is a very small number. But I don't know what the expected number would be in the population regardless. That's what they have to figure out.
All from the same article:
It said it was continuing to analyse its database to understand "whether these very rare cases of blood clots associated with thrombocytopenia occur any more commonly than would be expected naturally in a population of millions of people".
If you give a vaccine to millions of people you will of course see some cases of people falling seriously ill or even dying shortly afterwards. It does not mean the vaccine has caused the problem - it could have occurred naturally. What authorities have to work out is whether it is cause or coincidence.
They do this by monitoring adverse events after vaccination and see if they are above what you would normally expect. The type of blood clot that has been seen is very rare and so it is hard to know exactly how many cases you would normally expect to see. We do know it is more common in women and taking the pill increases the risk of it happening.
There is no evidence yet to prove the AstraZeneca vaccine increases the chances of these clots.
wainy
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if you think a company like AZ would tarnish their reputation by releasing a vaccine that is dangerous then I think you’re crazy. You can find arguments all over internet to suit your agenda, here is some about Pfizer/Biontech & moderna.
Vaccines and Rare Clotting Disorders: What's the Link?
Causal relation appears possible, but evidence still indicates it's extremely rare
www.medpagetoday.com
The next link goes on to say it’s approved by the MHRA, WHO and EMA, who have all studied it and believes there is no increased risk of clotting. I work alongside the MHRA from time to time and don’t believe they would, for one second, be pushing a dodgy vaccine to people.
expert reaction to MHRA statement on the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots | Science Media Centre
www.sciencemediacentre.org
Ultimately though it’s up to you, you don’t have to take it, i personally have had it as I’d like to get my own life and family life back to normal ASAP.
There's gonna be posters pointing out it's not necessarily about the number of cases, but the age of the people.
But, it's irrelevant when it comes to a country and several countries that aren't vaccinating as many as they could do despite the drug being passed by every agency that matters in Europe.
As for the idea of mixing vaccines - well, the possibility was broached a few weeks ago in the press over here, via SAGE or a minister, I can't remember which - and certain posters were decrying the possibility that should even be thought about/considered. So, by that logic, let's see the same criticism for Germany.
They're being effing daft. Especially when there's about as much evidence as blood clots occurring from Pfizer as AZ.
Just get people vaccinated ffs.
But, it's irrelevant when it comes to a country and several countries that aren't vaccinating as many as they could do despite the drug being passed by every agency that matters in Europe.
As for the idea of mixing vaccines - well, the possibility was broached a few weeks ago in the press over here, via SAGE or a minister, I can't remember which - and certain posters were decrying the possibility that should even be thought about/considered. So, by that logic, let's see the same criticism for Germany.
They're being effing daft. Especially when there's about as much evidence as blood clots occurring from Pfizer as AZ.
Just get people vaccinated ffs.
toffee82
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Also important to consider that most nations are starting with the elderly and clinically vulnerable.
Wouldn't these groups be more susceptible to these occurances?
This could skew the data.
Far from blind support.
I prefer not to jump the gun and poo poo it at every given opportunity.
I only deal in facts , and the facts atm are its being suspended to certain age groups while its investigated ( have we been here before with Macron and his chums )
Its passed the EMA & WHO stringent tests , but hey ho what do they know.
In my opinion you have gone from devil's advocate to a complete wind up merchant... You think they should be mix and matching vaccine's? So much for going with the science. I think it's fair to say you have nothing better to do than post on GOT and try to get reactions out of people. Well done.
davek
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I wish I knew.
davek
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Is it? And how is that relevant to 1 in every 87,000 that we KNOW had the same thing pumped into their bodies?
I think the issue is that it's below 60s who are getting the blood clots (or of the few people who have got them, the majority were below 60).
It's still mental.
davek
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Just said what my course of action would be: seek another vaccine.
davek
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That's the BBC divvy commenting.
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