Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Barnfred 55]

Can anyone tell me what this vote is about on extending restrictions until October? I thought it was in the roadmap that they ended in June?

Don't know mate. I can't find info on the vote you are referring to. Is there an article you can post?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Don't know mate. I can't find info on the vote you are referring to. Is there an article you can post?

I'd not seen this yet but a quick look brought up this.

MPs could extend Covid lockdown law until October this week

But some have vowed to oppose the bill this week

www.cambridge-news.co.uk

Lockdown law could be extended until October this week

MPs will vote on the move on Thursday

www.walesonline.co.uk

This weeks vote was touched upon on Marr this morning, too.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I'd not seen this yet but a quick look brought up this.

MPs could extend Covid lockdown law until October this week

But some have vowed to oppose the bill this week

www.cambridge-news.co.uk

Lockdown law could be extended until October this week

MPs will vote on the move on Thursday

www.walesonline.co.uk

This weeks vote was touched upon on Marr this morning, too.

Can anyone tell me what this vote is about on extending restrictions until October? I thought it was in the roadmap that they ended in June?

Yeah, just seen something similar myself from the Evening Standard.

What it relates to is the emergency covid laws put in place last March that enables the Government to make certain decisions relating to the pandemic without having to go through the normal channels of Parliament. It must have only been put in place for 12 months so they need to have a vote to extend it.

So basically, they aren't voting to extend the shutdown or to change the road map out of shutdown. It relates to the special powers temporarily afforded to the government which enables it to act quickly when urgency is required.

Can't see the problem in it myself. The only MPs I can see voting against it will be the anti lockdown MPs who are generally Tory.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Don't get your point mate, giving people of our country credit pulling together to get the vaccine done volunteers nurses admin staff. Should bring a jab out for crying arses

Think he's just pointing out that not everything in Britain relating to covid is fantastic. The issue in point is disgraceful really and highlights some of the massive problems with current immigration laws. However it shouldn't detract from the overall fantastic job that is being done by ordinary people in getting the vaccine rolled out in this country.

They are two different things really, although linked through the vaccine rollout. One shows the fantastic side of this country. One the bad side.

 

[Leylo]

Think he's just pointing out that not everything in Britain relating to covid is fantastic. The issue in point is disgraceful really and highlights some of the massive problems with current immigration laws. However it shouldn't detract from the overall fantastic job that is being done by ordinary people in getting the vaccine rolled out in this country.

They are two different things really, although linked through the vaccine rollout. One shows the fantastic side of this country. One the bad side.

Ye see your point just trying to be upbeat in these terrible times were all going through. Point taken

 

[Barnfred 55]

I think it was obvious what you meant, yes

Like most written prose it can be interpreted in more than one way. Just because you read it one way doesn't mean that was what the OP intended, just because it fits you're own narrative.

Had certain members posted something similar, you may have had a case. But to the best of my knowledge the OP has never shown any previous indication of racism in his posts, and you yourself acknowledged this by suggesting his mask was slipping.

 

[tsubaki]

Like most written prose it can be interpreted in more than one way. Just because you read it one way doesn't mean that was what the OP intended, just because it fits you're own narrative.

Had certain members posted something similar, you may have had a case. But to the best of my knowledge the OP has never shown any previous indication of racism in his posts, and you yourself acknowledged this by suggesting his mask was slipping.

Not really - I mean, you’ve got to be pretty contorted to get “the people of this country” into a statement praising the delivery of the vaccines anyway, but to do it in response to a post saying how (yet again) the government is apparently booting a black bloke it needs and had employed out of the country is at least suspicious.

By all means though keep doing what you accuse me of doing though.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Not really - I mean, you’ve got to be pretty contorted to get “the people of this country” into a statement praising the delivery of the vaccines anyway, but to do it in response to a post saying how (yet again) the government is apparently booting a black bloke it needs and had employed out of the country is at least suspicious.

By all means though keep doing what you accuse me of doing though.

As I said, it can be interpreted in different ways. His original post, not Bruce's response, was praising "the people of this country" for coming together to make the vaccine rollout successful.

but bloody ell credit were credit is due well done everybody involved proud to be British

His second post was just an extension of the first. Here's his response to my post referring to Bruce's.

Ye see your point just trying to be upbeat in these terrible times were all going through. Point taken

If he was indeed guilty of what you are accusing him of, I don't believe that would have been his response.

I don't even know what you mean by the highlighted bit of your post. All I've done is say I think you misinterpreted his post. Are you saying I misinterpreted yours? Surely your response shows that I didn't. You believe the OP to be racist. No?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I'm trying to avoid being a conspiracy theorist nutter but lets face it life is unlikely to ever go back to normal. The governments across the world have realised the amount of power they hold over their populations. A lot of restrictions will stay in place forever now.

Yep! Found it very satisfying in a disturbing way our (cough cough) policing with consent sore fit to trample over vigil flowers for a dead women, the same vigil Duchess of Cambridge had laid flowers at only hours earlier, nice.

 

[Amw79]

I'm trying to avoid being a conspiracy theorist nutter but lets face it life is unlikely to ever go back to normal. The governments across the world have realised the amount of power they hold over their populations. A lot of restrictions will stay in place forever now.

But why would governments want to keep restrictions in place? This is what I don’t get with the conspiracy stuff. How does the government benefit?

What governments want, as far as I can tell, is everybody working as much as possible, and out spending their wages to drive the economy.

 

[BlueToff]

But why would governments want to keep restrictions in place? This is what I don’t get with the conspiracy stuff. How does the government benefit?

What governments want, as far as I can tell, is everybody working as much as possible, and out spending their wages to drive the economy.

The only thing - and I don't think it's a conspiracy as such - but the only thing is a push to a green economy.

I know it's been around for years but in the last year that term has become more and more prevalent.

There's a massive push now to get climate change under control or the planet's knackered.

Think back to the first lockdown, not just in the UK but around the world. When it was 2 months of genuinely nothing and how the world seemed to 'come back' so quickly, for lack of a better word.

I'm not suggesting the governments will keep populations under lockdown for that. But I think they'll definitely use covid as a facilitator for a push to new industries (Sunak last year basically said as much).

All these jobs that have been lost - they're going to start creating new ones and it seems that 'green' or 'digital' is the way forward.

FWIW, I think it's a good cause, obviously, so something needs to be done one way or the other.

 

[grandjoeblue]

But why would governments want to keep restrictions in place? This is what I don’t get with the conspiracy stuff. How does the government benefit?

What governments want, as far as I can tell, is everybody working as much as possible, and out spending their wages to drive the economy.

Time will tell. This current lockdown will be the longest lockdown in world history by the time it ends. I personally wouldn't be surprised if the June part of the road map never happens.

 

[Amw79]

The only thing - and I don't think it's a conspiracy as such - but the only thing is a push to a green economy.

I know it's been around for years but in the last year that term has become more and more prevalent.

There's a massive push now to get climate change under control or the planet's knackered.

Think back to the first lockdown, not just in the UK but around the world. When it was 2 months of genuinely nothing and how the world seemed to 'come back' so quickly, for lack of a better word.

I'm not suggesting the governments will keep populations under lockdown for that. But I think they'll definitely use covid as a facilitator for a push to new industries (Sunak last year basically said as much).

All these jobs that have been lost - they're going to start creating new ones and it seems that 'green' or 'digital' is the way forward.

FWIW, I think it's a good cause, obviously, so something needs to be done one way or the other.

Oh, I’m sure this will have pointed out potential benefits and new digital and green ways to do things.

But even things like working from home, I think the government will not want to continue indefinitely, cos they want workers commuting into city centres and putting a fiver a day into Pret A Manger.

The lockdowns have crippled consumer spending and massively increased government spending which is exactly the opposite of government aims.

 

[tsubaki]

I don't even know what you mean by the highlighted bit of your post. All I've done is say I think you misinterpreted his post. Are you saying I misinterpreted yours? Surely your response shows that I didn't. You believe the OP to be racist. No?

No. Did I say that is what I thought, or did I point out one bit in one post?

The highlighted bit of the post was - clearly - about you criticizing me for (according to you) reading something that wasn't there based on my "own narrative" when that is exactly what you've done here; what you do repeatedly in fact.

 

[Mrk]

Hugely impressive numbers again. That's over 10 people vaccinated every second.