Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Its a valid point only have to look at flu and other seasonal illnesses drop off with social distancing etc. Not so long ago it became unacceptable with fitness to work mantra from government to have time off work for a cold and such like. Cant near a place of work if you sneeze now.

We have to accept that other cultures do things differently and better...the west in general, not just the UK.

I expect that lesson will be learned slowly and at great cost to us.

 

[davek]

You need to look at the science, its clear that the vaccines are the answer.

Everyone wearing masks has had a relatively small impact on preventing deaths. Vaccines are preventing HUGE numbers of deaths.

This thinking will get a lot of people killed.

 

[davek]

Put a fork in this one. He's done.

'Forget the vaccines'.

Sound, you better get on the phone to every nation in the world, and all those vaccine manufacturers, and tell them to pack it in.

The vaccines are there. Forget them in that sense. They are useful and will help. They wont get us to safety though. Only suppression and behavioural changes will do that. Look to the east.

 

[grandjoeblue]

This thinking will get a lot of people killed.

You are starting to put your lockdown extremist views ahead of the science.

Just because you want people locked down forever doesn't mean we should all be imprisoned forever.

The science is the important thing.

 

[davek]

You are starting to put your lockdown extremist views ahead of the science.

Just because you want people locked down forever doesn't mean we should all be imprisoned forever.

The science is the important thing.

That's infantile.

With or without vaccines we cant afford a reprise of the summer of 2020. It will just about flatten us as a society if we have to have more lockdowns because of another repeat of the winter we're just emerging from.

THAT is the only message I have. No more, no less.

 

[grandjoeblue]

That's infantile.

With or without vaccines we cant afford a reprise of the summer of 2020. It will just about flatten us as a society if we have to have more lockdowns because of another repeat of the winter we're just emerging from.

THAT is the only message I have. No more, no less.

Ok interesting. Extend the lockdown forever to reduce the need for a future lockdown.

Makes sense.

 

[davek]

Ok interesting. Extend the lockdown forever to reduce the need for a future lockdown.

Makes sense.

No, that's not what I'm advocating.

Vaccines + suppression programme + keeping scoial distancing and mask wearing.

If we dont deploy all three then you;ll have lockdowns forever.

 

[tsubaki]

Ok interesting. Extend the lockdown forever to reduce the need for a future lockdown.

Makes sense.

TBF it makes as much sense as doing nothing differently apart from having more people vaccinated does.

We’ve got to prevent a situation arising where we have to lockdown again. I fear nothing the governments done with this lockdown is going to anything more to prevent a lockdown having to happen than anything they did after the first lockdown did.

 

[grandjoeblue]

TBF it makes as much sense as doing nothing differently apart from having more people vaccinated does.

We’ve got to prevent a situation arising where we have to lockdown again. I fear nothing the governments done with this lockdown is going to anything more to prevent a lockdown having to happen than anything they did after the first lockdown did.

The vaccination programme and the huge testing scheme are the major differences.

 

[tsubaki]

The vaccination programme and the huge testing scheme are the major differences.

not to preventing a subsequent lockdown they aren’t

 

[grandjoeblue]

No, that's not what I'm advocating.

Vaccines + suppression programme + keeping scoial distancing and mask wearing.

If we dont deploy all three then you;ll have lockdowns forever.

Social distancing won't work at festivals and concerts etc indoors unfortunately. Also doesn't really work in pubs or restaurants. Unsustainable in the long term.

 

[grandjoeblue]

not to preventing a subsequent lockdown they aren’t

Are you talking about test and trace again?

 

[tsubaki]

Are you talking about test and trace again?

that would be something that actually would prevent the need for a subsequent lockdown, yes

 

[Brennan]

not to preventing a subsequent lockdown they aren’t

How do you know that widespread vaccinations and increased testing aren’t enough to prevent further lockdowns ?

 

[grandjoeblue]

that would be something that actually would prevent the need for a subsequent lockdown, yes

Test and trace will work better with less cases. No country can trace 60000 cases a day.