Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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tsubaki said:
the official total is 4634, despite it having two months and the biggest migration of people on the planet in between the first case being identified as suspicious and a lockdown
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The death curve graph is the funniest.

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tsubaki said:
the official total is 4634, despite it having two months and the biggest migration of people on the planet in between the first case being identified as suspicious and a lockdown
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Is it December 30th that the first case was discovered, too?

And let's face it, that's just when we know that the first case was confirmed. Definitely wasn't 'patient zero' in terms of the first person to have it, so you're probably looking at closer to 3-4 months total between November and Feb.

Doesn't excuse the crap response from the UK government, but the WHO were inadequate at the start and China covered it up. And nothing will happen other than their economic power grows even more.

There should be zero tolerance in the west for what that government does.
 
BlueToff said:
Is it December 30th that the first case was discovered, too?

And let's face it, that's just when we know that the first case was confirmed. Definitely wasn't 'patient zero' in terms of the first person to have it, so you're probably looking at closer to 3-4 months total between November and Feb.

Doesn't excuse the crap response from the UK government, but the WHO were inadequate at the start and China covered it up. And nothing will happen other than their economic power grows even more.

There should be zero tolerance in the west for what that government does.
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Sorry - I should have been clearer. The first case subsequently identified was at the start of December though its not clear whether that person went to a hospital.
You are right though - although this is something thats had a massive effect on us, the West have let that country get away with literal murder for years - the camps, the reports of enslavements and the organ trade being things that must be stamped down on.
 
tsubaki said:
Sorry - I should have been clearer. The first case subsequently identified was at the start of December though its not clear whether that person went to a hospital.
You are right though - although this is something thats had a massive effect on us, the West have let that country get away with literal murder for years - the camps, the reports of enslavements and the organ trade being things that must be stamped down on.
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Massive trade tariffs are needed. And companies over here and in Europe, the US etc must be given incentives (well, not sure if that's the right term - maybe tariffs on them is the way to do it, too) to not rely on China for manufacturing.

We all chip in in our own way. Every electronic device we have is probably made over there. But it's the companies and organisations that use that cheap labour and trade. So the governments need to stamp down on that - me deciding to chuck my iPhone away isn't gonna do much good in the grand scheme of things.
 
BlueToff said:
Scare mongering.

Any excuse for some people to keep this crisis going.

We all know we're off back into lockdown nationally inside a week.

Look hard enough for anything and you'll find it - hence everywhere in Europe and now even Canada picking up this new magical zombie strain.
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Do you think it's scare mongering? Looks more like arse covering to me
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Do you think it's scare mongering? Looks more like arse covering to me
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Bit of both.

There's clearly a new variant - but it's likely been here months (and evidence suggests not just in the UK).

The spread would have been derailed had the south east and London been put into T3 at the start of December, yet not one MP in any party questioned why it wasn't, as far as I'm aware. Certainly, during Hancock's announcement at the time, they didn't.

But some outlets and people will start using this new strain as evidence that we can't return back to normality when the vaccine gets rolled out - which just shouldn't be the case.

Lots of work to do on that front, with the logistics etc, but if vulnerable groups are vaccinated by the end of March, we should be able to do things again. I'm not expecting indoor concerts or the like until later in the year, but no reason going to the match shouldn't be allowed, or being able to go to the pub without having to lob a mask on if you're not sat down, or just being able to go round and see your friends.

No reason at all.
 
BlueToff said:
Massive trade tariffs are needed. And companies over here and in Europe, the US etc must be given incentives (well, not sure if that's the right term - maybe tariffs on them is the way to do it, too) to not rely on China for manufacturing.

We all chip in in our own way. Every electronic device we have is probably made over there. But it's the companies and organisations that use that cheap labour and trade. So the governments need to stamp down on that - me deciding to chuck my iPhone away isn't gonna do much good in the grand scheme of things.
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TBF I think tarriffs are the wrong answer - we need not to trade with them, or anyone who does what they've been doing. The same goes for the Russians as well, who lets not forget killed nearly 300 EU citizens without even apologising or making any recompense.
 
BlueDraka said:
For me schools should keep going. Do a lockdown if they need to but leave the kids in school
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The problem with this is the one in November didn't work at all. Nursing homes, hospitals, schools and universities equate to over 80% of the spread. Nursing homes and hospitals can't be closed. Universities should never have opened. Schools could try splitting the cases in half with one group in for one week and the other group the next week with online learning for the week that they are not in.
 
grandjoeblue said:
The problem with this is the one in November didn't work at all. Nursing homes, hospitals, schools and universities equate to over 80% of the spread. Nursing homes and hospitals can't be closed. Universities should never have opened. Schools could try splitting the cases in half with one group in for one week and the other group the next week with online learning for the week that they are not in.
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Cant do that for primary schools though.
 
grandjoeblue said:
I haven't got a clue mate, couldn't they have 15 of the kids in Monday/Tuesday and 15 in Thursday/Friday? Surely something like that would be better than online only and would reduce the spread quite a lot.
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Lot of parents work full time and they need supervising or can’t be left alone. Would require employers to be understanding and allow the time off.
 
grandjoeblue said:
The problem with this is the one in November didn't work at all. Nursing homes, hospitals, schools and universities equate to over 80% of the spread. Nursing homes and hospitals can't be closed. Universities should never have opened. Schools could try splitting the cases in half with one group in for one week and the other group the next week with online learning for the week that they are not in.
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Its a good idea. They will have to be open for key workers children. Just I worry for poorer families who don't have laptops, especially working class white boys who already are the worst performers and less likely to go into further education
 
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