Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Agree with this. If China are giving out real statistics on covid they definitely already have an effective vaccine. Haven't they supposedly only had about 3000 deaths in total?
I'm not one for conspiracy theory and it's hard to imagine a developed country doing such a thing, but when you put all the facts we know about this virus together it's hard to come up with another logical explanation
 
In fairness the Chinese vaccine has already proven to be incredibly effective. I mean the rest of the country was barely touched when the virus was released in Wuhan , and since March everything in the country has returned to normality whilst the rest of the world has been in lockdown with untold damage to their economies and infrastructure.

It's amazing that, after the initial outbreak the highest and most densely populated country in the world has has lower covid figures than somewhere like Iceland.

Mind you, it should come as no surprise that their vaccine is so good given it was developed in the same labs that probably created the virus
You were going so well until the bottom line.
 
Find it unusual how it spread throughout the UK in no time at all but in China it mainly stayed in Wuhan even though they supposedly weren't aware of its existance for at least 2 months.
 
Find it unusual how it spread throughout the UK in no time at all but in China it mainly stayed in Wuhan even though they supposedly weren't aware of its existance for at least 2 months.

Depends on how many people in the area travel to other regions doesn't It?Also helps when you have an authoritarian government (one of the only benefits of such) that can effectively seal off the region.
 
Find it unusual how it spread throughout the UK in no time at all but in China it mainly stayed in Wuhan even though they supposedly weren't aware of its existance for at least 2 months.
Do you know how big China is?
Do you know how isolated some regions are?
At the same time, there is a completely different mentality towards government and rules and compliance.
They locked down complete really early on. Really strictly. To the point where they could control it. They also had much better controls in place than we do once the economy opened up. And provided a much bigger stimulus package to support the economy.
That’s why they’re in a better place right now.
 
Do you know how big China is?
Do you know how isolated some regions are?
At the same time, there is a completely different mentality towards government and rules and compliance.
They locked down complete really early on. Really strictly. To the point where they could control it. They also had much better controls in place than we do once the economy opened up. And provided a much bigger stimulus package to support the economy.
That’s why they’re in a better place right now.
Imagine the Chinese reaction to the "We want our freedom" bell ends.
 
Depends on how many people in the area travel to other regions doesn't It?Also helps when you have an authoritarian government (one of the only benefits of such) that can effectively seal off the region.

Yes, it does and although authoritarian regimes can effectively seal off a region they can also do loads of other things like control information, conceal or invent statistics and basically make it appear that even quite outrageous things occuring on a massive scale do not present as such to anyone outside a region or the country. More importantly there are also consequences for going against / appearing to go against the regime, so there is less chance people will openly report problems and then keep reporting them if they aren't believed (as happened to the medics over there who got pinched for saying what was happening, or as happened to Weiwei for trying to find out the number of kids killed when their schools collapsed in that earthquake).

So the only thing we are left with is comparing their figures to elsewhere.

That disease had community transmission over there for at least a month and possibly a good deal longer than that, in a populous city and region and where there was a lot of travel (the New Year holiday). It isn't a country that can effectively seal itself off (like NZ or ironically enough Taiwan), and from their own reports we can see what measures were put in place to try and cope. We should also remember that there was no test for this for almost all of the worst parts of their outbreak, and no confirmed treatments either. The idea that they had 4000 dead, which would suggest <400000 cases based on the around 1% fatality rate that the rest of the world has seen, is clearly extremely questionable at best and at worst an outright fabrication.

Of course, we could find out the truth if independent experts went in there from the WHO with the freedom to find out the truth for themselves. That - still - hasn't happened.
 
Do you know how big China is?
Do you know how isolated some regions are?
At the same time, there is a completely different mentality towards government and rules and compliance.
They locked down complete really early on. Really strictly. To the point where they could control it. They also had much better controls in place than we do once the economy opened up. And provided a much bigger stimulus package to support the economy.
That’s why they’re in a better place right now.

They didn't lock down complete really early on - if you believe the official story, it was two months from the first case of community transmission that lockdown occured in Wuhan. Our first confimed case was at the end of January and we were locked down by 23rd March.
 
Do you know how big China is?
Do you know how isolated some regions are?
At the same time, there is a completely different mentality towards government and rules and compliance.
They locked down complete really early on. Really strictly. To the point where they could control it. They also had much better controls in place than we do once the economy opened up. And provided a much bigger stimulus package to support the economy.
That’s why they’re in a better place right now.
Do you believe 4500 people died of covid in China?

Wuhan has direct links with loads of major cities, direct trains to Shanghai etc. Wuhan is a similar size to London and it went into Lockdown on the 23rd January which is 2-3 months after the spread started. In the UK deaths were huge within roughly 45 days of the virus getting into the country?

I do believe the Chinese surpressed it but the numbers of deaths aren't credible.
 
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