Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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arminisgod said:
but thats one of the main reasons given by the Government for lockdown that these areas don't have enough hospital beds... which is now a lie
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No it isn’t ?

This has been gone over time and time again in this thread. The military do not have a huge number of ICU trained medical staff readily available. It’s a myth.

The “beds” in a literal sense is not the issue, it’s the staffing, and the logistics.
 
tsubaki said:
Every time you question why Ellwood hasn't gone on to better things he reminds you why he hasn't. The MoD could not assist with its medical staff without damaging its ability to be deployed anywhere. It is also questionable how useful they'd be anyway, given that their normal patients aren't usually 50-90 year olds with breathing problems.

Big regional tiers are an unfortunate consequence of people not following instructions. When the Welsh lockdown ended, my parents went shopping to Broughton to get a few things. It was packed with English people who couldn't shop over the border because their shops were closed, so they went to Wales where the shops were open. Now the Welsh infection rate is going back up.
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Any evidence that the growth is from the border regions in particular?
 
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Of course

www.theguardian.com

A year after Wuhan alarm, China seeks to change Covid origin story

Reports in state media signal an intensifying propaganda effort to place the birth of the virus in other countries
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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It was obvious right from the moment they (the CCP) had their cries to rename the virus from the 'Wuhan Flu' to 'Covid-19' adhered to that this was the route they were going to go down - funnily enough, nobody was crying when prominent members within the CCP were agitating to rename it the 'Italian Virus'.

The CCP's biggest threat is the 'Mandate of Heaven' - lose that and they lose their grip on power. Hence you see concerted efforts by the CCP to absolve themselves of all blame.
 
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Hospital figures - 277 deaths were announced today, down 90 on yesterday and down 3 on last Sunday. 208 deaths were in English hospitals, down 81 on yesterday and down 14 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 359.86

All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 215 deaths were announced today, down 264 on yesterday and down 183 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 460.14

For the 60 day cut off, 229 deaths were announced today, down 290 on yesterday and down 205 on last Sunday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 496.86
 
www.theguardian.com

NHS to enlist 'sensible' celebrities to persuade people to take coronavirus vaccine

People who are ‘known and loved’ will front campaign amid fears of low take-up
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

The article only names Rashford, so who do people reckon would be included? David Attenborough is probably a shoe in to get the oldies on side. Andy Murray and Lewis Hamilton perhaps? Ant and Dec?

Hopefully they take inspiration from posters on here and any speeches/messages are influenced by the most vocal of posters. I can just see Graham Norton telling to people to roll their sleeves up so they can get their back, sack and crack waxed. Stephen Fry can eloquently shout MURDERERS and then Harry and Meghan can cap it off by telling the plebs to do what they’re told.
 
About this vaccine. There is something that anti vaxers may have a point on that us normal people are happy to dismiss.

Long term effects.

Which is ironic given the point of long covid being a thing now.

Now if the vaccine is made from components that are known then fair enough, there isn't any issue there. But if it's been rushed through without any idea of long term effects on people then isn't that dangerous? We wouldn't know what effect it would have on a number of things.

Don't get me wrong , I'll be getting the vaccine when I'm able to much like everyone else should be.
 
Kenshin said:
About this vaccine. There is something that anti vaxers may have a point on that us normal people are happy to dismiss.

Long term effects.

Which is ironic given the point of long covid being a thing now.

Now if the vaccine is made from components that are known then fair enough, there isn't any issue there. But if it's been rushed through without any idea of long term effects on people then isn't that dangerous? We wouldn't know what effect it would have on a number of things.

Don't get me wrong , I'll be getting the vaccine when I'm able to much like everyone else should be.
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anti-vax is less about being anti-vaccine and more about narcissist stupid people who want to believe they are smarter than everyone else.

same w/ other conspiracies. When 4G is phased out, the number of "5G is mind control" people who carry 5G phones will be 99.9%.
 
Rook said:
anti-vax is less about being anti-vaccine and more about narcissist stupid people who want to believe they are smarter than everyone else.

same w/ other conspiracies. When 4G is phased out, the number of "5G is mind control" people who carry 5G phones will be 99.9%.
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Ok then to re word it, people who have more than a crazy approach to not getting the vaccine lol

There are those who say that they don't know what's in it hence their reluctance to get the vaccine.

I know the vaccine is based on similar coronavirus vaccines so it's entirely possible that they know long term effect already. For us general public , we don't know that side of it however.

It's just one of those things , millions of us will trust that what we are getting injected is safe.
 
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