Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[mrb85]

Yeah, it's soooo cool to get infected and put the old and vulnerable in mortal danger of coming into contact with the no mark gets.

You can't stop the infection spreading. All the various measures do is to spread infection over a longer time period.

 

[Nymzee]

Yeah, unless it's the third tuesday of the month, or you have ginger hair

In all seriousness, as it stands I believe you can go to the pub as part of a group of six, maximum. That pub will have to shut by 10pm. You can then have those friends back to yours, unless they come from more than 2 housholds, which they probably will, so then you can only have one of them back.

Clear as mud, yeah?

Reckon it's crystal clear myself.

 

[BlueToff]

There is no safely unless you are hazmatted up. I go to drop the kids at school where I might see 100 people, you'll get told it's safe but there are still parts where you are forced to get closer than you would like and that doesn't require any public transport for me.

As for only people that want to be there are there, does this mean they don't have families or people they come into contact with outside the ground. I don't get your point.

And it'll be as dangerous this time next year as it is now, more than likely.

This thing isn't going away. So we have to get back to normal.

If we were now in April (so this thing had come around in September last year - I mean, let's face it, it was here in November and December, we just didn't know), we'd probably be getting back to normal near enough. Maybe not full capacity but you'd be looking at a return to normality because the summer doesn't have a flu season.

As it is, we do have a flu season coming so they're gonna molly coddle us through it so the NHS isn't overrun.

Fine, but once it's over, once we get to spring, there has to be a way out of it.

 

[ToffeeTim]

There is no safely unless you are hazmatted up. I go to drop the kids at school where I might see 100 people, you'll get told it's safe but there are still parts where you are forced to get closer than you would like and that doesn't require any public transport for me.

As for only people that want to be there are there, does this mean they don't have families or people they come into contact with outside the ground. I don't get your point.

There is no such thing as 100% safety in anything in life. I don't understand when people on TV or the media use the phrase "100% safety".

The virus will be here until we get a vaccine, and potentially even afterwards too in a lesser form.

We need to find an effective one, then get mass production for the whole country. That's possibly years away. We need to learn to live with this virus and we can't have continuous restrictions for years or the whole country will be decimated.

We can't stop those who want to go to games from going, just because others don't want to go. That's fine for a while, but it doesn't work forever.

 

[Kenshin]

What local shopping area is this? My own observations are that mask wearing in shops is nigh on 100%

To be honest mate in Liverpool I haven't seen any 100% compliancy for a while now. Even shops like card shops dont seem to always have them.

But I'm talking about small shops , newsagents and the like. Very rarely see anyone since July actually wearing them in there, even if they are people would wear them in Asda

 

[BlueToff]

Reckon it's crystal clear myself.

It's just all a bit daft and haphazard though - which it has been all along.

Why weren't they telling us to wear masks (making them mandatory) in April, when 1,000s were dying? Why didn't they close the borders or have temp checks for people landing (which they still don't do when it could be so easily done).

It's a shambles and they're a joke of a government blaming it on the public.

I'm not saying they'd done everything wrong, btw. There's only so much that could be done. The UK changed course halfway through because they realised their calculations were wrong - these same scientists who got it so wrong at the start are now leading us through this. Blind leading the blind.

Come March/April, if the government has anything about them, there needs to be a plan to get back to normal. Because if not we might as well never, ever get back to it. Because covid isn't going anywhere is it.

 

[BlueToff]

There is no such thing as 100% safety in anything in life. I don't understand when people on TV or the media use the phrase "100% safety".

The virus will be here until we get a vaccine, and potentially even afterwards too in a lesser form.

We need to find an effective one, then get mass production for the whole country. That's possibly years away. We need to learn to live with this virus and we can't have continuous restrictions for years or the whole country will be decimated.

We can't stop those who want to go to games from going, just because others don't want to go. That's fine for a while, but it doesn't work forever.

Exactly.

A vaccine should be prioritised for vulnerable groups. Like a flu vaccine.

People in 20s to 40s who are fit and well with no underlying conditions should be the last on the list for them - I'm sure most people agree with that.

That's how we're going to be able to get back to normality, as you say it's not going anywhere inside a year. Because it's beyond the pale as it is, taking into account actual curfews like it's 1984 now being imposed.

 

[zzr45]

There is no safely unless you are hazmatted up. I go to drop the kids at school where I might see 100 people, you'll get told it's safe but there are still parts where you are forced to get closer than you would like and that doesn't require any public transport for me.

As for only people that want to be there are there, does this mean they don't have families or people they come into contact with outside the ground. I don't get your point.

Sure, but again that’s something that would need to be sorted out. People are supposed to only being used Public Transport as vital, which travelling to sport wouldn’t be, so regrettably it would be restricted to either people who can park at a ground or walk there. In terms of turnstiles it’s no different than queueing outside shops. It happens and the risk can be mitigated with masks/social distancing.

Grounds also didn’t allow people to congregate on concourses or queue for food. It was all to the seat service. It was very different to a ‘normal’ game.

My point is that your closing remark suggested that people were forced to be there ‘if they had the option’ suggested people were there not of their own volition. It just feels like you’ve taken your own match day experiences and considered them to be normal.

 

[Blues Harp]

Will there be isolation "facilities" for the infirm/elderly to live in and die quietly while the "healthy young people" get on with their lives?

I think we should be told...

 

[Nymzee]

It's just all a bit daft and haphazard though - which it has been all along.

Why weren't they telling us to wear masks (making them mandatory) in April, when 1,000s were dying? Why didn't they close the borders or have temp checks for people landing (which they still don't do when it could be so easily done).

It's a shambles and they're a joke of a government blaming it on the public.

I'm not saying they'd done everything wrong, btw. There's only so much that could be done. The UK changed course halfway through because they realised their calculations were wrong - these same scientists who got it so wrong at the start are now leading us through this. Blind leading the blind.

Come March/April, if the government has anything about them, there needs to be a plan to get back to normal. Because if not we might as well never, ever get back to it. Because covid isn't going anywhere is it.

I mean, all I was saying was that the rules being asked of us Joe Public aren't particularly complicated despite what people say.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Wonder how the body would react to Flu and Covid at the same time??

Probably not well. The working guidance is to leave 28 days between the flu vaccine and a possible Covid vaccine.

 

[orly]

Will there be isolation "facilities" for the infirm/elderly to live in and die quietly while the "healthy young people" get on with their lives?

I think we should be told...

Like an allotment?

 

[Blues Harp]

Like an allotment?

Only if supervised by government approved allotment "marshalls"
lol

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Won't somebody please think about the billion dollar businesses Starbucks and Costa in all of this.

Cant be having the woke's not buying the oatmeal latte and smashed avocado on roasted sour dough, start wasting the money again, there are dividends to pay!

 

[Charro]

I mean, all I was saying was that the rules being asked of us Joe Public aren't particularly complicated despite what people say.

Well our office doesn’t know if it should continue to have people in or send everyone home to WFH. They have 30% attendance in this office, should they send everyone home now or continue to work at a reduced rate?

I suspect a lot of offices are like this around the country.

Also, I play football every Wednesday 9-10pm. We’ve asked if the game will still be going ahead as they’re supposed to be closed at 10pm but they don’t know what to do either.

Just a few examples of them not being clear on things.