Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Keeping business closed for an indefinite period and expecting the companies and government to front the wages for staff isn’t capitalism.
...it hasn't been capitalism for a century or more.

It is the preservation of capitalist social relations though.
 
That refers to footfall.

Here's turnover.

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2021 is a forecast, presumably not taking the previous 6 months into consideration, especially with news that it’ll be 18 months for spending to get anywhere near back to current levels. Likewise 2018 is an estimate, suggesting the figures are out of date or not particularly accurate, especially when the exact same author on the same website published a report that revenue was dropping - https://www.statista.com/statistics/558154/beverage-serving-turnover-united-kingdom-uk/

Neither does another report by the same author which shows that the number of pubs in the UK has declined, including the number of Wetherspoons pubs. They’ve gone because they don’t make money.


So Wetherspoons have become more profitable by acting like even bigger bastards. Tim Martin is a horrible man and yes, ideally would pay staff out of their coffers rather than use the furlough scheme. But he won’t, because he’s a massive bellend.

The rest of the industry is suffering massively and there’s a lot of good independent places that provided jobs to plenty that are on the edge. Tarring them in with the likes of Tim Martin’s mob is inane.
 
In practice though it's not a solution. Businesses survive and trade due to cashflow. Take away revenues for over half a year and most businesses will be on the brink, if not already over the edge.

Business owners are already deciding that it's not worth carrying on. I deal with them every day. Further restrictions carrying on into the Autumn will make things worse. If industries are also stopped from trading in the run up to Christmas, then the economy will be absolutely decimated. I'm not trying to scaremonger, but it's very serious.

Which is why there won`t be another national lockdown, regardless of what Socialist Dave says or wishes.
 
2021 is a forecast, presumably not taking the previous 6 months into consideration, especially with news that it’ll be 18 months for spending to get anywhere near back to current levels. Likewise 2018 is an estimate, suggesting the figures are out of date or not particularly accurate, especially when the exact same author on the same website published a report that revenue was dropping - https://www.statista.com/statistics/558154/beverage-serving-turnover-united-kingdom-uk/

Neither does another report by the same author which shows that the number of pubs in the UK has declined, including the number of Wetherspoons pubs. They’ve gone because they don’t make money.


So Wetherspoons have become more profitable by acting like even bigger bastards. Tim Martin is a horrible man and yes, ideally would pay staff out of their coffers rather than use the furlough scheme. But he won’t, because he’s a massive bellend.

The rest of the industry is suffering massively and there’s a lot of good independent places that provided jobs to plenty that are on the edge. Tarring them in with the likes of Tim Martin’s mob is inane.
All industries will suffer - apart from Amazon!

I was asked how a lockdown of the whole of the hospitality industy could be countenanced given the possible unemployment it'd cause. I've given a reasonable repsonse to that.
 
Which is why there won`t be another national lockdown, regardless of what Socialist Dave says or wishes.
Again, for the hard of learning: I haven't said there will be a 'national lockdown'. I said there are plans afoot to lockdown nationally a sector, in the event that schools are looking at remaining closed in the face of a rising R-number.
 
2021 is a forecast, presumably not taking the previous 6 months into consideration, especially with news that it’ll be 18 months for spending to get anywhere near back to current levels. Likewise 2018 is an estimate, suggesting the figures are out of date or not particularly accurate, especially when the exact same author on the same website published a report that revenue was dropping - https://www.statista.com/statistics/558154/beverage-serving-turnover-united-kingdom-uk/

Neither does another report by the same author which shows that the number of pubs in the UK has declined, including the number of Wetherspoons pubs. They’ve gone because they don’t make money.


So Wetherspoons have become more profitable by acting like even bigger bastards. Tim Martin is a horrible man and yes, ideally would pay staff out of their coffers rather than use the furlough scheme. But he won’t, because he’s a massive bellend.

The rest of the industry is suffering massively and there’s a lot of good independent places that provided jobs to plenty that are on the edge. Tarring them in with the likes of Tim Martin’s mob is inane.
Tbf they're not all angelic either, whatever an ethical appraisal is worth. Was it Albert Roux or Marco Pierre White who said that ninety odd percent of those in the hospitality industry were 'c#@+s'? I could name a fair few besides dim Tim.
 
Was out on the ale with my mate last night - even for a wednesday evening was very quiet out.

eerily quiet.

We were talking about this last night in the pub. Many people will probably not be coming back until this disease is history. Certainly people are taking advantage of half price food offerings, but it was felt that many will not come back even if beer prices were slashed. Money isn’t really the issue....
 
Tbf they're not all angelic either, whatever an ethical appraisal is worth. Was it Albert Roux or Marco Pierre White who said that ninety odd percent of those in the hospitality industry were 'c#@+s'? I could name a fair few besides dim Tim.
Oh my word yes, it’s an interesting business make no bones about it. Plenty of ego and narcissism. I just really hate that moron.
 
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