Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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verreauxi said:
To prove one of your points regarding gender differences, you should provide some studies that show that women are more affected by, and more likely to die from Covid than men. Otherwise you are engaging in Hitchen's razor, which is basically a statement that "it could always be otherwise"...which doesn't really hold much sway.

There are probably about 100 studies showing men are more likely to die (and be more affected by) covid than women. You are saying the contrary: therefore the burden of proof rests on you. Can you provide studies that disprove the gender disparity with respect to men being more affected/dying by covid relative to women?

What the data show right now is that men >> women in Covid deaths/afflictions. It could always be otherwise (e.g., we could all be living in a simulation, aliens are causing men to die more often then men, etc.), but your claim requires backing showing that men = women in Covid deaths. To put this in another perspective, people claim that bigfoot exist, despite tons of scientific data suggesting otherwise: bigfoot apologists can always say, "but you didn't look in Rhode Island...but you only asked 45% of witnesses...but you failed to search under every bridge...etc.," You can see that they are trying to shift the burden of proof onto the scientists, rather than simply producing evidence of bigfoot.
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Ok I'll play game

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/covid19-mortality-rates-men-women/

Suggests infection rates are the same in both male and female, suggesting the mast cell gender difference which has been the leading point here fair enough.

https://globalhealth5050.org/covid19/

This one suggests that many countries (taken from a global tracker) do not publish results for gender or even in some cases age. Which ties into my point about the data available being limited.

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/smoking-and-covid-19

This one although shows no peer approved research as of currently (there are ones planned). It does show local studies that state the significant influence of smoking in covid-19 serious cases , almost like that could be a factor in the severity of the virus (one of the variable factors I talked about).

https://ourworldindata.org/whowho-smokes-more-men-or-women

This one shows (links in article) that significantly more men than women smoke worldwide. Therefore it isn't beyond the realms to suggest that this could be a varying reason as to why more men are dying due to covid-19 rather than genetics.

There's a few I knocked out.

Essentially when I'm talking about varying factors in the information , there's some cases where smoking could absolutely be a factor in male to female severity given that the infection rates are similar. If men significantly smoke more then that is absolutely a varying factors that could influence a male to female mortality rate to a respiratory virus.

Now you can come back to me and say oh but that's not all peer reviewed as someone has done before. However the mast cell theory has no results either, yet I'm told I have to take that on face value.

If you want to keep playing then give us a shout. I can regurgitate statistics back just as much as you guys want to. Doesn't change the fact I'm not reading that information and spitting it back.

Kinda sad really that it's fine for one side to dismiss an opinion based in flawed information and make the other offer actual evidence that suggests what they are saying.

It's not proving the existence of big foot but it proves my point that external factors COULD be a factor in the data that isn't being considered by one side of this discussion currently.
 
Kenshin said:
Suggests infection rates are the same in both male and female
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Which LinekersLegs acknowledged. She was talking about the rates of death and serious subsequent illness which skew heavily in men's favour.

LinekersLegs said:
There are multiple studies across multiple countries, including the initial ones from China, that men are disproportionately negatively impacted by coronavirus, often despite more cases being diagnosed in women.
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LinekersLegs said:
show men are at greater risk of serious complications and death from coronavirus than women.
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But of course, you either know this or genuinely are completely clueless. Either way, it is completely pointless trying to get through to you. You don't want to admit that you are wrong on the internet, no matter what is put in front of you. Goodbye Kenshin, you beautiful clueless idiot, my ignore list thirsts for you and I can deny it no longer

 
Prevenger17 said:
Which LinekersLegs acknowledged. She was talking about the rates of death and serious subsequent illness which skew heavily in men's favour.





But of course, you either know this or genuinely are completely clueless. Either way, it is completely pointless trying to get through to you. You don't want to admit that you are wrong on the internet, no matter what is put in front of you. Goodbye Kenshin, you beautiful clueless idiot, my ignore list thirsts for you and I can deny it no longer

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Back to dismissing rather than discussing with me it seems?

I offered several pieces of evidence proving doubt to the point and as predicted earlier you simply dismiss it.

Childish really
 
Nymzee said:
Where I work (in the UK) we're currently still working from home and likely will be till next year. There are rumours it could be till 2021 but first they need to evaluate if people are being as productive at home as in the office otherwise they'll be trying to get us back in as soon as possible.
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Is it possible to be less productive than your average Atom Mill office worker?
 
So because the fat people cant control themselves the rest of us have to miss out on buy one get one free? Why am I being constantly punished due to other peoples greed and sloth? It makes no sense.
 
Tea_drinker said:
So because the fat people cant control themselves the rest of us have to miss out on buy one get one free? Why am I being constantly punished due to other peoples greed and sloth? It makes no sense.
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Maybe the end of those kind of deals will lead to big retailers treating their producers better rather than driving their margins down so much they can afford to give food away for free that will normally end up in the bin.
 
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