Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Chris O'Connor said:
That's a difficult one to answer atm tbh. Several pharmaceutical companies are helping research, and not always to different projects from different countries but sometimes the same one, so i simply don't really know.

We aren't really anywhere near that positive situation yet anyway - what would be essential is getting the huge chemical manufacturers involved who could take on such a gigantic task. The huge pharmaceuticals or multinational chemical conglomerates would be the ideal candidates whichever way the licensing and profits were apportioned.

Normally it would take up to ten years to develop and fully test such a vaccine but with some of the really top research teams throughout the world working with slightly different approaches it gives us several shots at an effective one being found and increases our chances of getting there in only a fraction of that scary ten years, perhaps even early 2021 but perhaps more realistically possibly a year to 18 months.

We cannot live this way and survive economically for anything even like that long. It's why, for all the understandable calls of take no chances, a phased and controlled opening of businesses has to take place and is inevitable even if not ideally appropriate until we're clearly on the downward slope.

A vaccine may not be a year to 18 months away it could take a few years. Economic misery and depression will kill millions both metaphorically and actually, virus or no virus. It's not a stupid move to tolerate the virus, but ready to take some measures again to keep it under control. A second phase of infection is almost inevitable anyway whatever measures are taken and some like social distancing, testing, tracing and shielding the vulnerable are here long term.

(I've been in contact with my brother today, who's a consultant in the main hospital for Covid-19 in Newcastle

He said they haven't had anything like the number of Covid 19 cases they've put beds aside for, and really the resources being allocated to this are way beyond demand they're as if planning for a worst possible case scenario. The effect of doing so though is having a hugely and unforseen detrimental effect on both the profile, urgency and efficacy of the treatment for other major life threatening conditions especially - cancer, heart disease and strokes - the emergency is rapidly changing into a non coronavirus one. (outside London, and to a lesser extent the West Midlands, easily the worst hit and notable hot spot)

He thinks the money spent on what could be largely unused Nightingale hospitals could have been far better used in other areas within the NHS - says sometimes the media figures lack context as to how many are affected by different conditions and the consequent risks involved)
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Liverpool still has reasonable capacity and at the moment not going to use the the partly new built hospital.
 
peteblue said:
Telegraph....

www.telegraph.co.uk

Coronavirus dies out within 70 days no matter how we tackle it, claims professor

Prof Isaac Ben-Israel claims his analysis shows virus is self-limiting and peaks at 40 days before entering rapid decline
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”Across the globe, debate is raging about the best way to tackle the spread of coronavirus, with countries adopting radically different approaches in the fight against the disease.

But one Israeli professor claims that all efforts will lead to the same result, because the disease is self-limiting, and largely vanishes after 70 days, with or without any interventions.

Prof Isaac Ben-Israel, head of the Security Studies program at Tel Aviv University and the chairman of the National Council for Research and Development, claims that his analysis proves Covid-19 peaks at 40 days before rapidly declining.

Major General Ben-Israel, who was also head of the Analysis and Assessment Division of the Israeli Air Force Intelligence Directorate and former chief Cybernetics adviser to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, claims shutting down major economies is having devastating consequences for little gain.“
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That lad must have some education with all those job titles
Either that or married the PM s daughter
 
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