Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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PhilM said:
I think they did as well as the British Medical Associating. Personally, I agree with their concerns entirely because I wouldn't be happy working without PPE.

It's also a very serious failing of both the government and the logistics that it hasn't been sorted earlier regardless of the difficulties involved in obtaining it.

However, I can't help have slight issues (well... worries) with what she was subtly advocating in her position: to refuse to work would be refuse to treat patients.

Really, I do not know the answer to it and it's a very difficult situation for everyone involved, with heart felt sympathy, but I can't help but feel that duty is duty.

Individual people need to make that decision themselves rather than a person from a political party almost suggesting to not work - or that's how I took it.
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It's a horrible position to be put in,got to feel for anyone put in that position to make that decision.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
I think you're missing the wider point here, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're doing it deliberately so as to not expose your hypocrisy.
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What wider point. The ECJ rules on European Treaties and the Operation of the EU within the EU membership. The ICJ is the United Nations Court and deals with Inter Country issues.....
 
peteblue said:
What wider point. The ECJ rules on European Treaties and the Operation of the EU within the EU membership. The ICJ is the United Nations Court and deals with Inter Country issues.....
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You introduced the ICJ. I didn't even mention it.

My point was (and it really shouldn't need explaining) given how much you bleated on about sovereignty throughout Brexit discussions, what amount of sovereignty do you think would be needed to be given away to allow a non national court to arbitrate over damages of $1t as a result of a pandemic?
 
TippEverton said:
Thanks for them ll, I was also thinking of doing them some meals that would be easy for them to reheat, good idea or unnecessary risk ?

I don't think I have it but I've heard the mantra 'act as though you do' more than once, which I pretty much have been, besides going the shops which has to be done.
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I’m sure some meals they can easily reheat will be most welcome.

I have no medical background so don’t know for sure but all the advice I’ve seen is that food itself is pretty safe, even when prepared/cooked by someone else using standard hygiene precautions. The only concern I’ve seen discussed regularly is around the container it comes in. Personally we’ve still been getting takeaway from our local restaurants to try to keep them in business but in an abundance of caution (more peace of mind than thinking it genuinely a risk) I’m following the advice below which could also fit with anything you make for your relatives if you wanted to be extra cautious.

You doing their shopping is going to have cut down their most likely risk of catching the virus in any case if they are avoiding other public places.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...akeout-and-delivery-and-how-to-minimize-them/
Either way, when you bring outside meals into the house, you should remove the food from the bags/packaging/containers and put it on clean dishware (and use your own utensils). If you want, you can use gloves to open the packaging/containers. When finished, you should throw away the materials or thoroughly clean and recycle them. You should immediately wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and hot water before eating. (If you don’t have soap and hot water available, a hand sanitizer with at least 60 percent alcohol will suffice.) You should also clean and disinfect all surfaces where the packaging materials were placed. And don’t touch your face at any point.
 
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JEBUS_LIVES said:
You introduced the ICJ. I didn't even mention it.

My point was (and it really shouldn't need explaining) given how much you bleated on about sovereignty throughout Brexit discussions, what amount of sovereignty do you think would be needed to be given away to allow a non national court to arbitrate over damages of $1t as a result of a pandemic?
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None. You go to the ICJ and no sovereignty passes hands......
 
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