Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Whats to say its not going to re-emerge in China if unsuspecting Brits or Americans etc take it back in the next 3-4 weeks.
There is no point quarantining one or two areas when its already out because the probsbility is unless other countries do it, its just going to spread and come full circle.
America will be our biggest threat as they wont acknowledge, have no system in place to deal with it and millions of people cant afford to get tested/treated or even stay off work.
There is no point quarantining one or two areas when its already out because the probsbility is unless other countries do it, its just going to spread and come full circle.
America will be our biggest threat as they wont acknowledge, have no system in place to deal with it and millions of people cant afford to get tested/treated or even stay off work.
I really don't want to wind up the spokesman for the UK government, but on this at least I think they're probably doing the right thing so I'll try and put the other side.
They feed the data from Italy and elsewhere into the models, or at least that's what I'd expect. They know a lot more now about just how communicable the virus is for instance. Take a look at this article that outlines some of the complex issues involved in implementation of social distancing:
The problem with the immediate aggressive approach is that it's not sustainable and too many people will disregard it due to their own experience. Look at some of the responses on this thread. You and I know that in two weeks we won't be seeing those responses, or at least far fewer of them, but they're the reality at present.
I think the govts approach is to try containment for as long as possible, then move on to delay and again try to do the most effective things, not necessarily all the the weapons in the arsenal at once.
I'll leave it there. I respect your point of view, I just think this is one of those occasions where the intuitive response: 'shut everything down' may not be the most effective. Yes, even after the evidence of the Italian doctor...
Yeah, okay buddy it's not as if I hold you responsible though it might feel like that! I do understand the point about timing, but I personally think we have already gone past that time. There do not seem to be any measures in place to delay this virus let alone contain it. People coming in from airports say that they are not making the public aware of the dangers, because wherever you come from nobody seems to care, or pay any attention. As you can see from this thread, this attitude bleeds down into the population at large.
When I flew back from England to China, as soon as I arrived, I realized it was deadly serious. It was a shock and frightening but that woke me up! We couldn't get off the plane for hours (they let individual planes out into the airport 1 by 1). Had to fill in forms detailing travel, and medical history, every official in the airport was dressed like a spaceman, or at the very least they were wearing masks and gloves. All passengers were also wearing masks (except me and my kid). Yes this made things scary, but the fear served a purpose.
Because not only do such measures raise awareness of the illness and its seriousness, but even the most nonchalant person cannot help being infected by it, and knuckles under and follows the rules.
Even if they can't implement such measures (although I really think it just needs leadership in government and on the ground) they could surely make more people, realize the seriousness of this, and raise awareness.
When I watch football stadiums full to capacity and the government using language like contain or delay, I really just think it's a bad joke. Seems they have taken 'contain' to mean, get everyone together in one big massive container!
There’s no stopping the continuing spread without a shared immunity, specifically through vaccine but you can also get shared immunity the hard way. Of course it could die out, but that seems unlikely for something that spreads as easily as this.
But there are huge benefits to slowing the spread, or “flattening the curve” as people call it.
“With no mandatory 14 day quarantine“ is a completely different statement that your original “Paying the price for allowing half a million Chinese settling into northern Italy, with tens of thousands returning from China in late February.”
The first does not single people out on anything other than their travel history, the second does.
And at this point the virus is pretty much global so where/how it Is picked up matters less than how you identify/contain it.
On the plus side the first stage of solving a problem is admitting it so probably an improvement on the “nothing to see here” they were peddling previously
Looks like he’s over riding his spell checker again lol
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Tell I'm to use both sides of the bog roll...
Good thinking Joey. In fact, you’d be a useful asset in the coming Apocalypse with your horticultural knowledge. Better than that London liberal elite @Bruce Wayne anyways. What’s use would he be, googling ‘how to open a tin of spaghetti hoops without a tin opener’ We can use him as fuel for the fire I guess
Good thinking Joey. In fact, you’d be a useful asset in the coming Apocalypse with your horticultural knowledge. Better than that London liberal elite @Bruce Wayne anyways. What’s use would he be, googling ‘how to open a tin of spaghetti hoops without a tin opener’ We can use him as fuel for the fire I guess
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My old Boss used to say hope you use both sides with the council cutting our budget back....
Bit like Chickenpox parties from the 60' and 70's, if not before!!
Its a real sad indictment of our society that people aren't grasping the seriousness of this situation, I totally relate to your experience is a terrifying scene that people have been faced with!
I assume that's in a badly infected area. My sister in law is stuck in Harbin while visiting family, after an initial 2 weeks lockdown, people are now moving about more freely as long as they where a mask.
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