Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

superb from matlis that

It did blow up some of the narrative and agenda that the Tories were trying to build around this virus, man the beaches, we are all in this together. What a load of danglies.

 

[mrb85]

it has, but our place in the grim league table that emerges after this will be a testament to how our government has handled this

Agreed - so lets leave that discussion til then.

 

[BlueToff]

They 'routinely' tested King Kenny the other day apparantly, despite the fact the staff doing the test themselves probably haven't been tested.

And he's showing no symptoms. I hope he doesn't - I hope he stays that way and is fine. But why did he get tested?

Was it because he was in a certain ward of the hospital?

I'm lucky that myself or anyone I know hasn't been into hospital recently so I don't know what the procedure is.

I'm not having a dig at them for testing him. It'd just be nice to know what the qualifications are for you to get a test. Is it just when you're admitted?

 

[tsubaki]

My garden could do with a good seeing to.

If you lived in London you could probably get one of the six or seven people living in the flats that divide your house to do it.

 

[tsubaki]

Agreed - so lets leave that discussion til then.

Why? That would be too late to improve what the government is doing.

 

[peteblue]

With respect, I wasn't talking about political ideology here mate.

Look at how Germany dealt with the disease, they took the decisions to close things down early and heeded all of the guidelines the WHO were providing. For whatever reason, our government decided that we were to be a exception to that rule and now we have over 1,000 people dying daily.



He was leader of the opposition then, and nobody listened.

Don‘t be silly. Every country has a unique set of conditions that will affect the outcome. Poland is right next door to Germany, with half the population but only 180 deaths, why is that ? Are they managing this better than Germany ? The U.K. has 120,000 Chinese students, many of whom will have been back to China then returned to the U.K. at the beginning of all this, Germany has less than one third this number, would that have an impact ? Our airports are amongst the busiest on the planet, would that have an effect. To imagine everyone has similar circumstances is ignorant in the extreme. The U.K. will suffer because it is an open society. Saudi Arabia and Russia are perhaps not suffering as much because they are less open. We are all different and will be affected differently.......

 

[tsubaki]

And he's showing no symptoms. I hope he doesn't - I hope he stays that way and is fine. But why did he get tested?

Was it because he was in a certain ward of the hospital?

I'm lucky that myself or anyone I know hasn't been into hospital recently so I don't know what the procedure is.

I'm not having a dig at them for testing him. It'd just be nice to know what the qualifications are for you to get a test. Is it just when you're admitted?

One of the reports said he was there to get “a routine course of antibiotics” which probably means he is on some form of high risk list.

 

[BlueToff]

One of the reports said he was there to get “a routine course of antibiotics” which probably means he is on some form of high risk list.

That's fine then. Like I said, I'm sure there will be set guidelines of who gets tested or how and I wasn't looking to dig anyone out for it. It's just frustrating not knowing. But as long as the people administrating the tests know, then that's what matters.

 

[PhilM]

TBF that data point is rubbish - people are visiting parks to walk or jog, not to do things which are temporarily banned. They are doing this because apart from the streets there isn’t anywhere else to get exercise.

While that's entirely true and the government have approved daily exercise, I wouldn't suggest it's rubbish and that's also from my own experiences of open spaces.

Like I've said previously on here, I pass a few major parks in South Liverpool each day, and the numbers of people there (daily) is for me concerning.

Whether it's allowed or not, for me the current situation is bringing an increased risk, even with social-distancing rules, as people will/are coming within contact.

We are still having a fair few cases of people meeting their friends, having BBQs and not following social-distancing guidance (ten people running together?)

I'm still having my daily run, but I get up early and run around the block a fair few times away from every one and anyone: it's boring but I want to manage risks.

When I drove past Sefton Park yesterday, the exterior route was more akin to a usual hot summer's day rather than a city under imposed restrictions.

I'm not advocating closing parks or people shouldn't go to them, but you would hope that there was some common sense to it although that's a big ask in itself.

 

[witchdoc187]

But as @tsubaki has rightly pointed out there's a lot of factors in this mate.

For one, the weather is obviously nicer so of course people are going to want to be getting out when they can for their walk or jog or whatever. In London, the only option they have for that is a park.

If they are either not working or on furlough or even working from home, people have more time. In London, a commute is probably an hour each way on average? That's two hours more each day and these people who perhaps never thought they had the time before are now using it to get out and exercise.

The kids aren't at school, or the vast majority anyway, so families are going to have to get out of the house/flat for their allotted allowed time and again, in London or most of the big cities, the only option is the parks.

Another factor - people who go to gyms now can't use them (obviously) so they are doing their exercise outside.

It's not just that people have suddenly decided they're going to rush to the park.

I've not said that mate. My original point was that there are people in the park. I'm not saying they are sunbathing or doing anything illegal. Whether they are jogging or walking is immaterial. Taking it seriously would for me mean closing the parks. They closed some of them last week in London then reopened them for this weekend. Just seems crazy to me. All parks over here were closed a month ago.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

You’d deffo be forgiven for thinking otherwise

They're scientists not political advisors - civil servants really trying to follow best practice whoever gets elected.

 

[Toast]

One of the reports said he was there to get “a routine course of antibiotics” which probably means he is on some form of high risk list.

My father in law who has Leukemia had to drive to hospital and wait in the car park for them to bring out his medication.
So maybe picking up medication is different across the country.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

TBF that data point is rubbish - people are visiting parks to walk or jog, not to do things which are temporarily banned. They are doing this because apart from the streets there isn’t anywhere else to get exercise.

We all live adequate space with own private garden all affordable of course The office of statistical me myself and I says it is, so it must be true.

 

[tsubaki]

While that's entirely true and the government have approved daily exercise, I wouldn't suggest it's rubbish and that's also from my own experiences of open spaces.

Like I've said previously on here, I pass a few major parks in South Liverpool each day, and the numbers of people there (daily) is for me concerning.

Whether it's allowed or not, for me the current situation is bringing an increased risk, even with social-distancing rules, as people will/are coming within contact.

We are still having a fair few cases of people meeting their friends, having BBQs and not following social-distancing guidance (ten people running together?)

I'm still having my daily run, but I get up early and run around the block a fair few times away from every one and anyone: it's boring but I want to manage risks.

When I drove past Sefton Park yesterday, the exterior route was more akin to a usual hot summer's day rather than a city under imposed restrictions.

I'm not advocating closing parks or people shouldn't go to them, but you would hope that there was some common sense to it although that's a big ask in itself.

There are certainly a significant number of people taking the mick, but simply saying park use has gone down by “only” 15% isn’t useful as a lot of things that are permitted / encouraged are taking place there.

 

[roydo]

There are certainly a significant number of people taking the mick, but simply saying park use has gone down by “only” 15% isn’t useful as a lot of things that are permitted / encouraged are taking place there.

I am not that convinced that in normal times there was some bloke measuring how much a park was used anyrate.