Conspiracy theories

[bignev23]

In response to both...

LMGTFY

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.

lmgtfy.com

You seem intent to think that because I've posted the article that I must believe it's true. That's not clever.

 

[malcson]

I don't think he's some kid in his bedroom Jim and myself I welcome everyone's opinion no matter how much it differs from my own, And I think a mistrust for authority is generally a healthy thing unless proven otherwise.

If I was to wonder myself whether we are being led down the garden path with this Coronavirus and for me there is a simple answer one that would placate my ambivalent feelings. Show me how many people died in each country (or even England or America or Italy or Spain) on each day or even month over the last 10 years and compare them to this year, if there is a massive increase I think it's likely that their is a virus, if not then this all seems like a massive overreaction at the very least.

I think the intensive care units heaving at the seams and the building of extra hospitals is a pretty clear indication that more people are dying. No government in the world would be shutting down their economies for a ‘fake’ pandemic!

 

[malcson]

Short term I think you are correct but how about if by time all this blows over, lets say it dragged on for twelve months or longer and by then nearly all small businesses were bust and their were no longer any competition long term for the global conglomerates would that be bad for big businesses?

Yes it would, because millions of people will have had their income decimated and won’t have money to spend on the output of big business. To believe otherwise is a very basic failure to understand how economies work.

 

[The binman chronicles]

If I was to wonder myself whether we are being led down the garden path with this Coronavirus and for me there is a simple answer one that would placate my ambivalent feelings. Show me how many people died in each country (or even England or America or Italy or Spain) on each day or even month over the last 10 years and compare them to this year, if there is a massive increase I think it's likely that their is a virus, if not then this all seems like a massive overreaction at the very least.

I don't think it is difficult to work out there is a nasty virus out there, you can see from the age of the people who are dying that it isn't just the very weak who are succumbing to it. Then look at the fact it is happening all around the world and the acute need for mechanical ventilation.

You could raise conspiracy theories about how the virus came to fruition, but not is this virus real or not.

 

[bignev23]

I think the intensive care units heaving at the seams and the building of extra hospitals is a pretty clear indication that more people are dying. No government in the world would be shutting down their economies for a ‘fake’ pandemic!

Show me where I said they have done this.

 

[bignev23]

I don't think it is difficult to work out there is a nasty virus out there, you can see from the age of the people who are dying that it isn't just the very weak who are succumbing to it. Then look at the fact it is happening all around the world and the acute need for mechanical ventilation.

You could raise conspiracy theories about how the virus came to fruition, but not is this virus real or not.

He can and he has.

 

[trueblue84]

You seem intent to think that because I've posted the article that I must believe it's true. That's not clever.

Which is why I posted it in the conspiracy theories thread Jimmy and not in the Coronavirus- Serious stuff thread. And Just because your offended by things doesn't mean that there not true either Jim.

I don't think he's some kid in his bedroom Jim and myself I welcome everyone's opinion no matter how much it differs from my own, And I think a mistrust for authority is generally a healthy thing unless proven otherwise.

If I was to wonder myself whether we are being led down the garden path with this Coronavirus and for me there is a simple answer one that would placate my ambivalent feelings. Show me how many people died in each country (or even England or America or Italy or Spain) on each day or even month over the last 10 years and compare them to this year, if there is a massive increase I think it's likely that their is a virus, if not then this all seems like a massive overreaction at the very least.

Short term I think you are correct but how about if by time all this blows over, lets say it dragged on for twelve months or longer and by then nearly all small businesses were bust and their were no longer any competition long term for the global conglomerates would that be bad for big businesses?

I'm not saying anything, it's a thread about conspiracy theories, so I posted one. For someone so clever you seem to be struggling with the idea that I didn't write the article and I'm certainly not asking you to believe it either but to in reply to your questions, question 1) if there are who are they? question2) I believe they are seeing people dying, is it from Coronavirus? I have no idea.

Not the initial post, but all the above make me fairly confident you believe it's true.

 

[malcson]

Show me where I said they have done this.

You suggested that you would need to see data that people dying on a daily basis was higher than normal. I think the situation in ICU wards across the globe indicate that this is exactly what is happening now. We don’t need to wait and see the stats, they are already there.

 

[The binman chronicles]

You suggested that you would need to see data that people dying on a daily basis was higher than normal. I think the situation in ICU wards across the globe indicate that this is exactly what is happening now. We don’t need to wait and see the stats, they are already there.

Every year we build massive field hospitals just for the fun of it.

 

[bignev23]

Not the initial post, but all the above make me fairly confident you believe it's true.

Nope... but I do believe there is the possibility it could have some truths in it. Big difference.

 

[trueblue84]

Nope... but I do believe there is the possibility it could have some truths in it. Big difference.

If the truths are only that some businesses will seek to profit from it then yes, that will definitely be the case. But we have already seen that happening so it isn't really a conspiracy theory.

 

[malcson]

Every year we build massive field hospitals just for the fun of it.

Do we really? What a strange way to have 'fun'!
I have lived in the same town for nearly 50 years and we have never built one before, but we are now. Have we just not been invited to join in the 'fun' in previous years?

 

[malcson]

Nope... but I do believe there is the possibility it could have some truths in it. Big difference.

The size of the difference really depends on what parts you believe are true? What do you agree with and what do you question?

 

[bignev23]

You suggested that you would need to see data that people dying on a daily basis was higher than normal. I think the situation in ICU wards across the globe indicate that this is exactly what is happening now. We don’t need to wait and see the stats, they are already there.

I was suggesting that would be one way to convince people who were sceptical about the seriousness of the Virus, yes.

 

[malcson]

I was suggesting that would be one way to convince people who were sceptical about the seriousness of the Virus, yes.

I think the only thing that would convince some of it's seriousness would be for them to catch it and find themselves on a ventilator in one of those filed hospitals we apparently build for 'fun'.