Computer games.

There is no 'best' platform. With the advent of the x86 architecture in consoles, the main differentiating factor is now solely the input device.

For FP shooters, keyboard and mouse will generally be the best bet, but for sports games, consoles and the gamepad rule the roost (yes, gamepads can be had on the PC, but it seems the sports PC games just dont work as well).
 

evilwebby said:
We are well into the law of diminishing returns on power vs fidelit, so to use that as a base for claiming PC superiority is silly.

Even the current generation is hard to tell the difference between PC/console, even though the console may be doing a fraction of the work of the PC card. I bet if you ran a similar PS4/XB1 vs PC comparison, didn't reveal which was which, and asked 100 people which was the better and by how much, they'd struggle to tell any discernable difference.

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I understand where you are coming from, but firstly that video you posted is flawed on so many levels... The PC version is only playing at 720p, most games on PC's with decent specs are played at 1080p. Also, the video has been compressed to go on YouTube. YouTube will never give you a real comparison due to that fact. That being said, there are lots of gaming sites which do show a comparison of uncompressed videos, but they are still limited to the quality of capturing software and devices.

I somewhat agree with your statement that the majority of people could not tell the difference.... But it depends on who you are asking. PC gamers tend to do it as a hobby (like my self) we know there is a base line level of quality at which improvements above this can be somewhat unnoticed to the majority. But people who do understand it, will notice the higher fps, Anti aliasing, shaders etc. The pc 'superiority' is in those gains which may be minimal to you but maximum for a real gamer....

It is that fact that consoles are great at serving the majority of gamers who don't care so much about those small changes (which is absolutely fine) and just want to play the game... And for that reason pc gamers will forever be stuck with consoles ports that don't push the limit of what is possible on PCs
 
Dylan said:
I just read Engadget's PS4 review and they are fawning over it.

"near" the beginning of the review they say this:



Sorry, not even close to highend PC's. Just look down the Radeon list to see how far down to get to the GPU with approx the same processing power. It's the HD 7850 and the HD 7790. Those go between $100-150 depending on where you shop. I get that the top 'o the line GPU alone costs more than the PS4, but lets not misrepresent.

The PS4 does not compare to the high-end PC's. More like a mid-range all-in-one without a screen.

And who's taking bets on how long until hackers....sorry, modders, have PS4/Xbox One games running on a PC??
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Also have to take into account the fact that consoles are made specifically for gaming and hence can direct all computing power towards that aim. Plus all the components are designed to integrate seamlessly with no redundancies and to minimise bottlenecks.... Hence, they can often out perform their specs on paper.... Not to mention the os is not as bloaty as pc's
 
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I agree, Evertonia, great points.

But all that aside, I'm a firm believer that a great game is a great game primarily because of its design, not because of its technology. Put it this way, I've never played a poor game and thought that having better graphics or technology would have turned it into a great game.

This year I've spent an incredible amount of time on Kingdom Rush and Plants vs Zombies on the iPad, while the XB360 has been untouched..
 
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I hate the arguments between PCs and Consoles, I choose a console cos its easier for me, hooked up to my television and I also prefer the controllers over the keyboard. I don't care about the best graphics. I care about gameplay and what can excite me and enjoy playing. I can play on my vita, then switch my xbox on and then maybe play football manager on the pc, I'm a pure gamer who loves gaming. Don't get me wrong top end games with graphics turn me on as well but not enough to choose the system on who provides the best graphics.
 

Jags..class said:
I hate the arguments between PCs and Consoles, I choose a console cos its easier for me, hooked up to my television and I also prefer the controllers over the keyboard. I don't care about the best graphics. I care about gameplay and what can excite me and enjoy playing. I can play on my vita, then switch my xbox on and then maybe play football manager on the pc, I'm a pure gamer who loves gaming. Don't get me wrong top end games with graphics turn me on as well but not enough to choose the system on who provides the best graphics.
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Exactly! This shows exactly how all platforms have something to offer.... At the end of the day it has to be about the enjoyment...
 
evilwebby said:
I agree, Evertonia, great points.

But all that aside, I'm a firm believer that a great game is a great game primarily because of its design, not because of its technology. Put it this way, I've never played a poor game and thought that having better graphics or technology would have turned it into a great game.

This year I've spent an incredible amount of time on Kingdom Rush and Plants vs Zombies on the iPad, while the XB360 has been untouched..
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So true Lid! In my experience blockbuster triple A games rarely have as much enjoyment as some of the other ones... Hence why Snes is still so fun to play....all the other superficial stuff is just for sh1ts and giggles... Similar to audiophiles need for high fidelity suppose...
 
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One of the best games ever (and still is IMO) is Micro Machines on the SNES/Mega Drive. Such a ridiculously simple yet entertaining game.
 

bicycleheader said:
Favourite racing games still are Micro Machines, F-Zero and the untouchable Super Mario Kart.
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Super Off Road, FZero, MicroMachines, Super Monaco GP, Need for Speed (the original from 1994) and Gran Turismo........(Wipeout on the PlayStation gets an honourable mention for being an awesome arcade racer too)
 
Dylan said:
I just read Engadget's PS4 review and they are fawning over it.

"near" the beginning of the review they say this:



Sorry, not even close to highend PC's. Just look down the Radeon list to see how far down to get to the GPU with approx the same processing power. It's the HD 7850 and the HD 7790. Those go between $100-150 depending on where you shop. I get that the top 'o the line GPU alone costs more than the PS4, but lets not misrepresent.

The PS4 does not compare to the high-end PC's. More like a mid-range all-in-one without a screen.

And who's taking bets on how long until hackers....sorry, modders, have PS4/Xbox One games running on a PC??
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Not going to happen.

And a gaming PC with a 7850 in is still considered high end when compared to the overall PC market. The cards you are talking about which are more expensive than a PS4 are niche items.

You also seem to be ignoring the fact that consoles, through their low level access to hardware, allow developers to get far more from the hardware than you can on a PC with comparable hardware. Developers themselves have said as much.
 
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Jags..class said:
I hate the arguments between PCs and Consoles, I choose a console cos its easier for me, hooked up to my television and I also prefer the controllers over the keyboard. I don't care about the best graphics. I care about gameplay and what can excite me and enjoy playing. I can play on my vita, then switch my xbox on and then maybe play football manager on the pc, I'm a pure gamer who loves gaming. Don't get me wrong top end games with graphics turn me on as well but not enough to choose the system on who provides the best graphics.
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But you can hook a PC up to the TV, and you can buy controllers for the PC too.

In saying that, consoles offer the casual gamer what they need at a semi affordable price.
 

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