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Jay_B said:
Maybe but, his rash treatment of Ross Barkley needs some sort of explanation. He has made an impact at every International level he has played at, every club he has been loaned out to, looked very good in our first team at the start of last season and has now been given the cold shoulder. Then there is John Lundstram, how do you explain beating Cheltenham away in the cup comfortably and he puts Hitz on over these two? what type of message does this send to our youth player?
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I fear for this lad after the treatment of barkley. lets hope the summer brings change.
 
harry said:
I fear for this lad after the treatment of barkley. lets hope the summer brings change.
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Exactly, if we are to be sending them out on loan at least extend the period to 6 months, we only have to look at how well it worked for Coleman. Id send them both to Tranmere as they have a real chance of challenging for something.
 
Maybe Barkley could have gotten a run out or maybe he is injured!? But you can't criticise Moyes for not giving Lundstram a run out. The lad is on loan at Doncaster after all!!! FFS! Lundstram played and played well for Doncaster yesterday and I am sure Barkley is currently injured. Do a bit of research before you jump on that bandwagon eh?!
 
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If Moyes threw these kids into the team and we got battered by Wigan and slipped down to tenth,what would be the reaction on here?
We still have an opportunity this season and it would be re-miss of him not to give the players who got us here the opportunity to finish the job.
All the young players will get the opportunity to prove their credentials pre-season and hopefully a couple of them will make the breakthrough for next season.
 

chrismanduk said:
If Moyes threw these kids into the team and we got battered by Wigan and slipped down to tenth,what would be the reaction on here?
We still have an opportunity this season and it would be re-miss of him not to give the players who got us here the opportunity to finish the job.
All the young players will get the opportunity to prove their credentials pre-season and hopefully a couple of them will make the breakthrough for next season.
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hes asked for one of them to be given 15 mins when winning comfortably against lower league opposition, not for all of them to start a prem game, most likely we'd like to see moyes find a better balance with the youth rather than just blanking them, no matter how poor the older alternative is
 
I dont know where the optimism about Stones comes from. He may turn out to be a first team player or he may just sink without trace. I doubt anyone on this forum has any experience of watching him either. He's a youngster for the future. It's like saying Kennedy is about to knock Pienaar off his perch to talk about Stones putting pressure on Coleman anytime soon.
 
davek said:
I dont know where the optimism about Stones comes from. He may turn out to be a first team player or he may just sink without trace. I doubt anyone on this forum has any experience of watching him either. He's a youngster for the future. It's like saying Kennedy is about to knock Pienaar off his perch to talk about Stones putting pressure on Coleman anytime soon.
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I'd imagine it comes from the lad having a rep as one of the best RB's in the league below us and more than a few in the game talking him up. He's not a kennedy or even a coleman. We have paid big money foe him.
 
steken1 said:
I'd imagine it comes from the lad having a rep as one of the best RB's in the league below us and more than a few in the game talking him up. He's not a kennedy or even a coleman. We have paid big money foe him.
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Kennedy was playing in the first team in the SPL. It means nothing. The pair of them are 18 and never going to get a chance for years.
 
davek said:
Kennedy was playing in the first team in the SPL. It means nothing. The pair of them are 18 and never going to get a chance for years.
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Probably not. I'd imagine being one of the better defenders in the championship is a fiar bit harder than the likes of the SPL though.

I think Stones will be a CB by the way Moyes is talking. Used as cover similar to how he uses Jagielka. Hopefully he'll be having a season on loan next year.

Still room for optimism though.
 

steken1 said:
Probably not. I'd imagine being one of the better defenders in the championship is a fiar bit harder than the likes of the SPL though.

I think Stones will be a CB by the way Moyes is talking. Used as cover similar to how he uses Jagielka. Hopefully he'll be having a season on loan next year.

Still room for optimism though.
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Yeah, I accept questioning the optimism about his progress was wrong. Both him and the Scottish kid have good reports. Knowing Moyes' recent reluctance to turn to youth though (if he's still here) they'll have to wait until they're in their early 20s before they get a debut.
 
davek said:
Yeah, I accept questioning the optimism about his progress was wrong. Both him and the Scottish kid have good reports. Knowing Moyes' recent reluctance to turn to youth though (if he's still here) they'll have to wait until they're in their early 20s before they get a debut.
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No doubt. I hope they get time on loan to play proper football.
 
Good old fashioned wing work yesterday, although it has to be said that Harte looked way past it.

When he did the old fashioned John Charles pick and push near half time though, made me smile for ages.
 

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