Chris Matheson MP being gagged by Elstone, EFC shareholders meeting moved to the Winslow pub

[brieverton]

Is there something to be gained from the club engaging with a discussion on this or is it a case of letting sleeping dogs/directors lie? Genuine question.

Perhaps some things are best left as they are and the club can get on with putting its house in order, on all fronts.

Of course, that task would be made all the easier if Elstone was to be consigned to history, along with the likes of Earl and Green.

His continued presence at the club, given his mediocrity and meagre success, is not only baffling, but of deep concern.

Each time I feel re-assurance that we are progressing, his presence is a reminder that we have a long, long road to travel.

It seems a long while since Esk was touting the possibility of David Dein coming in as Chairman, and Bryan Gilvary as director. What happened there?

 

[davek]

I just don't buy that at all. Was it his choice to bring in USM as sponsor of Finch Farm? I suspect it was Moshiri, and if that's the case how can you say with certainty that Elstone brokered all previous deals and not the previous owner? Or some other interested party?

In my opinion he rubs people up the wrong way but he acts on instruction and takes the resulting flak as if it were all his own idea so that he can keep his job, unlike his predecessor who had enough and stopped toeing the line.

Correct. He's a flunky. No way he's calling the shots on the procurement of deals.

 

[DerbyshireAndHarper]

I just don't buy that at all. Was it his choice to bring in USM as sponsor of Finch Farm? I suspect it was Moshiri, and if that's the case how can you say with certainty that Elstone brokered all previous deals and not the previous owner? Or some other interested party?

In my opinion he rubs people up the wrong way but he acts on instruction and takes the resulting flak as if it were all his own idea so that he can keep his job, unlike his predecessor who had enough and stopped toeing the line.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying, but the Kitbag and Chang deals pre-date Moshiri, that's what I'm referring to.

If he's acting upon instruction, it's Kenwright's instructions. Generally though, he's just not very good at his job, as shown by the deals he's made in the past.

 

[davek]

Is there something to be gained from the club engaging with a discussion on this or is it a case of letting sleeping dogs/directors lie? Genuine question.

Perhaps some things are best left as they are and the club can get on with putting its house in order, on all fronts.

Of course, that task would be made all the easier if Elstone was to be consigned to history, along with the likes of Earl and Green.

His continued presence at the club, given his mediocrity and meagre success, is not only baffling, but of deep concern.

Each time I feel re-assurance that we are progressing, his presence is a reminder that we have a long, long road to travel.

It seems a long while since Esk was touting the possibility of David Dein coming in as Chairman, and Bryan Gilvary as director. What happened there?

The latter. But they did neither. They just launched feet first into it and produced a PR embarrassment.

All they needed to do was to let the meeting go ahead as planned and let Matheson do his lap of honour in front of the ESA and that'd have been the end of it.

They're so cack-handed.

 

[orly]

If he does I'm embarrassed at the way some of the weapons on here talk about him being a fraud etc.

As a side note, well done to the Echo (for a change) for publishing the story. It's the sort of thing we've accused them of covering up in the past.

Agree with everyone else though. Hoped these sort of episodes were in the past. The sooner we get rid of the old guard the better.

Agree with you completely - but it's important to remember just how powerful an MP is. The Echo are backing the right horse here.

If it had been a Cabinet secretary / Minister the Club wouldn't even dream of it.

 

[DerbyshireAndHarper]

Is there something to be gained from the club engaging with a discussion on this or is it a case of letting sleeping dogs/directors lie? Genuine question.

There was no indication that Matheson was even going to mention Green again at this meeting. He only mentioned Green in the first place last October by using Parliamentary privilege so that he didn't get sued.

It's just the fact that he's barred from speaking at this meeting that's really galling, and it's basically because of something he said 5 months ago. The club are literally running scared from the topic. From what Matheson himself has said, Elstone appears to think he has an 'anti-Everton' agenda, which is quite frankly bizarre given he's a long standing season ticket holder who attended his first game 46 years ago. That doesn't sound like someone very 'anti-Everton' to me.

 

[Thuck ma Baws]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're saying, but the Kitbag and Chang deals pre-date Moshiri, that's what I'm referring to.

If he's acting upon instruction, it's Kenwright's instructions.

That's what I'm saying. I doubt the Kitbag and Chang deals were his in the same way that I doubt the USM deal is. If it all goes wrong though he'll be the one standing on a stage getting questioned over it at the AGM or have bloggers foaming at the mouth over him though while Moshiri, Kenwright, Green and whoever else sit shrugging their shoulders saying "well he's the chief exec fellas".

 

[COYB]

Elstone will probs find a way to ban you from
Goodison for making this posts ffs.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Elstone is the biggest threat to the integrity of Everton FC, moreso than Kenwright, always has been and always will be, we need shot of him as early as possible, should have happened a long time since..

moshiri has been here 12 months now and surely he can see Elstone is completly inept. the sooner the stadium is announced and the sooner moshiri exercises his right to buy up the other shares the sooner we can all move on from kenwright and elstone.

if the stadium is announced at bramley moore dock and moshiri takes full control then kenwright has played a blinder, not only for himself but for us Evertonians too.

at that point, he and the rest of his cronies should be replaced with a board fit for premier league 2017 dealings, we can not be held back by these individuals if we want to progress on, as has been mentioned.

 

[1966efc]

It seems a long while since Esk was touting the possibility of David Dein coming in as Chairman, and Bryan Gilvary as director. What happened there?

Imminent.

 

[ham2]

Bit the club in the aris this one, let the meeting go ahead at GP and little or no media coverage, move it then theres a story there

 

[ToffeeTim]

Pathetic from Elstone and therefore pathetic from the club. He should have been sacked this time last year. Horrible relic of our embarassing past mismanagement.

 

[Khalekan]

The most worrying aspect of this, for me anyway, is that one must assume there is indeed a fire giving off this smoke.

It seems to me Green is indeed involved in Everton financially and that if so, it will be biting us in the ass some of these days.

 

[Eggs]

...Echo picking up the story;

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...everton-supporting-mp-chris-matheson-12642075

 

[roydo]

...Echo picking up the story;

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...everton-supporting-mp-chris-matheson-12642075

That is word for word what someone posted on here!