Match Thread Chelsea 2-0 Everton. Sat Dec 13th. 3pm

[coollino]

Should have just left it at "Everton will lose some games.

The perfect post !

Just sadly lost on certain minds, they will now pick apart the 2nd section.

They can get angry a day after a football match if they want to, but it seems a waste of a day

 

[MikeH72]

Really not sure you should have posted this

Correct, I shouldn’t have done. A deadly mixture of alcohol and kopites on the windup in here brought a rage on, but it’s no excuse. I apologise and should’ve known better.

 

[Seathestars]

I didn't see any of the game but listened to it will driving on the motorway.
Disappointing result but Chelsea are so hit and miss it's hard to know what Chelsea will turn up.
Them and Newcastle are my two most loathed teams so that adds to the disappointment.

Anyway, I think we are plodding along nicely, some good results on the way. It's a sign of improvement when you're disappointed with results, rather than expecting a loss.
If we improve next season and the season after we'll be doing fine.

 

[Seathestars]

Correct, I shouldn’t have done. A deadly mixture of alcohol and kopites on the windup in here brought a rage on, but it’s no excuse. I apologise and should’ve known better.

Don't worry about it, we all regret things we do.
The windup kopite has just become a victim on here, he'll be loving it.

 

[MikeH72]

Don't worry about it, we all regret things we do.
The windup kopite has just become a victim on here, he'll be loving it.

He’s still an absolute freak that’s signed up on here with a username that mocks the victims of the Heysel disaster.

 

[Seathestars]

He’s still an absolute freak that’s signed up on here with a username that mocks the victims of the Heysel disaster.

Yes, I agree, they are the most weird cult in history

 

[Bluewolf]

Exactly, given up the game for other concerns, otherwise Garner stays on

Ill be honest i think we could of still been playing and we wouldnt of scored.

Seeemed like just one of those games. Till we get proper attacking fast fullbacks were going to have a few of those games i think

 

[MikeH72]

Yes, I agree, they are the most weird cult in history

They live in the gutter and try and drag you into it. I’ve been around here long enough to know better than to stoop to their level, once again I apologise wholeheartedly to all.

 

[SJB]

Correct, I shouldn’t have done. A deadly mixture of alcohol and kopites on the windup in here brought a rage on, but it’s no excuse. I apologise and should’ve known better.

Alcohol often brings out people's true character. You showed yourself to be an utter scumbag and no amount of hollow apologies which are only there to preserve your membership of this forum will hide that.

 

[MikeH72]

Alcohol often brings out people's true character. You showed yourself to be an utter scumbag and no amount of hollow apologies which are only there to preserve your membership of this forum will hide that.

Wasn’t talking to you, rat.

 

[SJB]

Wasn’t talking to you, rat.

Good, get back to mocking the death of young men who died in tragic circumstances but at least have the balls to stand by your vile views when you sober up.

 

[Benicetoourboys]

I didn't see any of the game but listened to it will driving on the motorway.
Disappointing result but Chelsea are so hit and miss it's hard to know what Chelsea will turn up.
Them and Newcastle are my two most loathed teams so that adds to the disappointment.

Anyway, I think we are plodding along nicely, some good results on the way. It's a sign of improvement when you're disappointed with results, rather than expecting a loss.
If we improve next season and the season after we'll be doing fine.

Where you driving home for Christmas?

 

[MikeH72]

Good, get back to mocking the death of young men who died in tragic circumstances but at least have the balls to stand by your vile views when you sober up.

I hope you’re very proud of defending a kopite who mocks 39 fans that died at a football match. At least I’m man enough to own my mistakes and apologise for them, you are a slimy little kopite serpent and a coward.

 

[Drico]

Not the most outlandish senario ever. This is why I was not totally pleased with the who.e 'Vibe' of his appointment...I mean its Moyes ffs.

But like I think you (or somebody) said - we're...some of us...are further ahead on the 'How will Moyes go' curve than TFG.
In the short term both we and TFG got lucky with Sean-I can't take them any further-Dyche's replacement.
The longer he stays, we will probably go to consolidate where we are now - 14th to 8th in our little yo-yo section of the League and compared to this time last year that's pretty good. so fairplay to all.
Moyes can - on past form take us into the top half of our mini yo-yo League - 9th to 5th on a good day

But to my mind, with a medium to long term (3 yrs+) Moyes there always seems to be a law of diminishing returns.
Because deep down

Moyes will be Moyes.

Yes, this is the issue for me. Are we doing better than last year? Of course. Should we be? Of course. Did Moyes do a good job last season? An excellent one. Is he doing a good job this season? He's doing pretty well. I can understand why fans who have suffered what we have would think, as they look at Wolves: "Tonight thank God it's them instead of you."

But we've all got to park our inner Bono. We are no longer run by shady ex-Soviets. A different manager under these owners is not a surefire return to the days of Frank Lampard. Moyes was here to stabilise. That job will be done by May 2026. He will have been here 18 months and we will not have been in a relegation battle since February 2025. The new owners will have had plenty of time to reorganise the club from within and we will have moved stadia. In other words, stability has been achieved.

At that point, we either show ambition or decide the status quo will do. Both are legitimate choices and perspectives - but come with conclusions we need to accept. Let's at least be honest. If you were an owner who really only wanted to safely nurse your investment, why wouldn't you extend Moyes? A safe pair of hands. However, if you, as an owner, wanted to turn back the tide in the city, challenge the establishment, and return Everton to trophy-contending relevance, Moyes would not be the horse for that course - unless you felt you needed another 12 months of "stability" before making the switch.

My position is that if that switch is not made next summer, that's more likely to be because they want to nurse their investment rather than buying themselves more time for an ambitious assault. I don't see what another 12 months buys you...except an older Pickford and Grealish for a new man to begin to consider replacing. That doesn't scream a good base on which to build.

We live in interesting times. The manager's position will tell a tale in the summer - but so then will the summer window. We'll know exactly where we stand and what we can actually achieve under these new owners then. Right now, they seem less transformative and more Rick Parfitt.

 

[SJB]

I hope you’re very proud of defending a kopite who mocks 39 fans that died at a football match. At least I’m man enough to own my mistakes and apologise for them, you are a slimy little kopite serpent and a coward.

My criticism of your abhorrent comments in no way defends or validates the comments that preceded them. You are an utter cretin, a vile, disgusting and horrible man who not only mocked the tragic death of a young man, you also doubled down on your comments when called out for them. You're not sorry at all.