Champions League revamp

[Venger]

UEFA are coming out of this looking so impotent.

“Stop punching me now or I won’t be your friend like nothing happened.”

Is brinkmanship the right word? Who blinks first?

UEFA > Leave and come back into the fold >What punishment will they give them?
Scabs > If we leave and come back into the fold> What is the punishment from UEFA and JP Morgan?

We don't know the contract they signed with JP Morgan, and it seems that contracts are team specific based on how 'Elite' they are. Just wonder if these teams have been taken by the nuts and don't know where to turn

Going to be very interesting how this plays out

 

[Tin-Tin]

Email from Denise

I can assure you that I, along with my fellow directors, will be working closely with colleagues and shareholders at the Premier League to ensure the events of this week are not able to happen again – and that appropriate action is taken

 

[Seathestars]

I knew it. Uncle Uzi called our saviour President Putin and asked what the hell Roman was playing at.

Comrade Putin called his buddy Mr Novichok and Roman duly withdrew from this charade.

Everton are backed By a snide Superpower, it’s glorious

 

[Seathestars]

Email from Denise

I can assure you that I, along with my fellow directors, will be working closely with colleagues and shareholders at the Premier League to ensure the events of this week are not able to happen again – and that appropriate action is taken

Just got that. Also said she wants to see appropriate action taken. I wonder

 

[allen]

Email from Denise

I can assure you that I, along with my fellow directors, will be working closely with colleagues and shareholders at the Premier League to ensure the events of this week are not able to happen again – and that appropriate action is taken

Denise is going to be out for blood. I hope we can bring the other 13 with us.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Is brinkmanship the right word? Who blinks first?

Brinksmanship requires the parties to be Sherlock and Moriarity during their fight at the Reichenbach Falls, but inextricably tied together with rope. Push me over the edge, and you're coming with me.

The sides aren't bargaining for advantage under threat of mutual ruin. One side has the ability to ruin the other, but is currently checked by HM's government. Should that support fail, the result is obvious. The weapon is passive; it requires the opponent to make a move.

The problem to be solved is removing the weapon from the board so that the 12 can't find a way to dismantle the Boris Johnson-shaped bomb and then strike.

 

[roydo]

Denise is going to be out for blood. I hope we can bring the other 13 with us.

Ironically, it seems she/we already have the fans of the scabs full square on side. Customers aside.

 

[tsubaki]

Brinksmanship requires the parties to be Sherlock and Moriarity during their fight at the Reichenbach Falls, but inextricably tied together with rope. Push me over the edge, and you're coming with me.

The sides aren't bargaining for advantage under threat of mutual ruin. One side has the ability to ruin the other, but is currently checked by HM's government. Should that support fail, the result is obvious. The weapon is passive; it requires the opponent to make a move.

The problem to be solved is removing the weapon from the board so that the 12 can't find a way to dismantle the Boris Johnson-shaped bomb and then strike.

TBF I think this is not right - the only side here that has proved it has the power to ruin anyone has only proved it has the power to ruin itself.

If the 12 left European football, it would cause short to medium term damage to what was left but it would probably not ruin them.

However the 12 would almost certainly would ruin themselves - lets remember this is a problem caused by themselves in the first place. More money is not going to solve a problem caused by an excess of money.

 

[Venger]

Brinksmanship requires the parties to be Sherlock and Moriarity during their fight at the Reichenbach Falls, but inextricably tied together with rope. Push me over the edge, and you're coming with me.

The sides aren't bargaining for advantage under threat of mutual ruin. One side has the ability to ruin the other, but is currently checked by HM's government. Should that support fail, the result is obvious. The weapon is passive; it requires the opponent to make a move.

The problem to be solved is removing the weapon from the board so that the 12 can't find a way to dismantle the Boris Johnson-shaped bomb and then strike.

The remark I made is not about HM Football Teams

It is about the financial crippled European teams that seem to be a little rabbit between two very big, bright and hopefully powerful lights

 

[Yarrgh]

Apparently the leaving fee is £130M.....who gets that I wonder....they’ve all been stitched up by RM and Barca.....

To be honest I'd tell them to whistle if I was a Scab team owner. If it destroys the epitome of greed that is those 2 clubs and makes a fairer game in Spain then at least the Spanish lucked out.

Make the English scabs pay a big fine into lower and non league football and how could they object with their altruistic view for the footballing pyramid.

 

[catcherintherye]

8m seems to be expsenses basically - that will be the final cost, the rest wont happen

The 300m a hysterical headline caused by divinding 3.5 billion by 12

I'm really not sure we can say what will or won't happen, or that 300m is merely from a hysterical headline. I'm pretty sure Perez quoted it exactly.

I have a suspicion there will be quite a bit to pay, beyond the 8m exit fee, and there is going to be quite a lot of argument about who foots set bill.

At present the 8m, 130m and 300m all have similar validity (just that the 300m came from a more reputable source).

 

[catcherintherye]

This plan proves they are stupid.

Yes. But UEFA too. I don't think UEFA have some masterplan in this.

 

[roydo]

Yes. But UEFA too. I don't think UEFA have some masterplan in this.

Nor do I. But the scab 6 in England were the equivalent of a tree surgeon sawing off the branch he is sat on.

 

[catcherintherye]

Nor do I. But the scab 6 in England were the equivalent of a tree surgeon sawing off the branch he is sat on.

Yes. And I will say this, it would not be unusual in such scenarios, particularly if you have broken contracts in a way that is not pre-agreed, that you are very often to all sorts of payments due to people you've given guarantees too.

They've all got themselves in massively too deep here.

 

[Martin Alvito]

TBF I think this is not right - the only side here that has proved it has the power to ruin anyone has only proved it has the power to ruin itself.

Should the 12 succeed, it would ruin UEFA financially. It would seriously compromise the remaining 14's finances, perhaps to the point of shuffling many of them out of the top flight over the course of several seasons - though I would bet on them rewriting the rules to give themselves a fighting chance.

If this had happened over years rather than months, they could better prepare at the cost of playing dead in the league along the way, which would cost them some fans and some cachet after the split.

The remark I made is not about HM Football Teams

It is about the financial crippled European teams that seem to be a little rabbit between two very big, bright and hopefully powerful lights

You explicitly mentioned UEFA and the 12 as the parties, so I responded to that.

Nor do I. But the scab 6 in England were the equivalent of a tree surgeon sawing off the branch he is sat on.

To be fair, Johnson was 100% in the Glazers' camp until Sunday. The reaction forced Johnson to reconsider. But I still think it was intensely stupid of Woodward to take a meeting at 10 Downing last week, as it gave Johnson a massive imperative to convincingly distance himself by crushing them before that fact came to light.