Champions League revamp

[catcherintherye]

Be interesting to see if any of them actually withdraw (even though they have all said they will or have) legally. I honestly hope the English teams have to pay a huge amount.

Yes I'm at the point where you hope this becomes as nasty and expensive as possible.

What's becoming clear though is;
1) There are clearly some substantial fees to pay back if it doesn't happen (far beyond the 8m the PL clubs have said)
2) RM at the very least seem to be of the view the PL teams have to pay those fees.

 

[catcherintherye]

You'd almost think UEFA were in on it from the start

My default position in most of these situations is the old Groucho Marx maxim- if he walks like an idiot, and walks like an idiot, ladies and gentleman please do not be easily fooled, that man is an idiot.

I really don't think this lot are able to plan something so intricate.

I just think for the most part they are short sighted and useless. As you have rightly said, most people in football just look at the most immediate pressures. The Karren Brady pradigm as you were. I could be being harsh on Brady there, but most people in football are amongst the most short sighted and literal you will ever meet. They don't see the big picture (mind the pun).

I can imagine if you or I tried to them "but if you don't punish them they will leave again" and you will just get a couple of responses being essentially "we need them" and "but they're back now". Thats all you would get.

To some degree it's a consequence of operating in a prolonged bull market. Nobody can comprehend tihngs going wrong, so due diligence and the sort of actuarial risk management goes out of the window.

In essence, I'd love to say it was a ploy, but they're just really stupid.

 

[allen]

Yes I'm at the point where you hope this becomes as nasty and expensive as possible.

Brilliant entertainment. Cannot wait for the lavish BBC / HBO co-produced mini series.

 

[catcherintherye]

Apparently the leaving fee is £130M.....who gets that I wonder....they’ve all been stitched up by RM and Barca.....

Thats a 3rd fee being bandied about. I've seen 8m & 300m as well.

What I get from this, is it's unlikely to be cheap to walk away from this thing. Let me put another scenario to you. If it goes ahead, that by choosing not to play in it, those cubs may also face a huge fine, hence why Perez is keen push it ahead?

 

[royalblue66]

It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth doesn't it all of this.

The lot of them are absolutely deluded.

Just Imagine sitting at a meeting with them Devious Bunch of Bar Stewards.

 

[roydo]

My default position in most of these situations is the old Groucho Marx maxim- if he walks like an idiot, and walks like an idiot, ladies and gentleman please do not be easily fooled, that man is an idiot.

I really don't think this lot are able to plan something so intricate.

I just think for the most part they are short sighted and useless. As you have rightly said, most people in football just look at the most immediate pressures. The Karren Brady pradigm as you were. I could be being harsh on Brady there, but most people in football are amongst the most short sighted and literal you will ever meet. They don't see the big picture (mind the pun).

I can imagine if you or I tried to them "but if you don't punish them they will leave again" and you will just get a couple of responses being essentially "we need them" and "but they're back now". Thats all you would get.

To some degree it's a consequence of operating in a prolonged bull market. Nobody can comprehend tihngs going wrong, so due diligence and the sort of actuarial risk management goes out of the window.

In essence, I'd love to say it was a ploy, but they're just really stupid.

This plan proves they are stupid.

 

[duncs pigeon]

Carlo seems to hint the SL was stupid but that there was an awareness about it.
So i am seeing now the denials from some that they were not told is more about the announcement rather than the plan

Didnt he say he heard rumours 2/3 months ago?. All this the managers didnt know is also b/s imo. These sort of people know what is going on.

 

[number4.]

Thats a 3rd fee being bandied about. I've seen 8m & 300m as well.

What I get from this, is it's unlikely to be cheap to walk away from this thing. Let me put another scenario to you. If it goes ahead, that by choosing not to play in it, those cubs may also face a huge fine, hence why Perez is keen push it ahead?

8m seems to be expsenses basically - that will be the final cost, the rest wont happen

The 300m a hysterical headline caused by divinding 3.5 billion by 12

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

Please be true!! Suppose its one way for them to make money

Are they just going to play each other every week?

 

[xena]

You'd almost think UEFA were in on it from the start

Not this time they weren't, but to get round any new rules the premier league brings in it'll be something similar to the super league, under the guise of the new champions league with uefas fingers in the pie that comes in very soon.

 

[GwladysBlue]

That it? Points deduct them! They’re literally all saying how they’re committed to getting more money in. They’ll 100% do it again within the next 5 years.

 

[Blue83]

Listening to SSN at the moment seems the 14 rightly want punishment given to the 6 saying that saying sorry isn't enough

 

[arch stanton]

Within the next 5 years, I predict:
1. The European Super League will become a reality, with watertight legal safeguards backing it up 100%;
2. The scab clubs involved will not take part in any Champions League, or whatever it will be called by then;
3. The English scabs will protect their 'Super League superstars' by only playing fringe players and kids in the Premier League (and will justify it by saying, 'after all they are all First Team squad players!'),
4. UEFA and the Premier League will be shown to be utter incompetent fools for not taking strong action now.

I may be wrong, but somehow, I don't think I'm far off the mark...

we can see it but the senior ranks of the PL and FA appear too scared to do anything. Bring the down a peg or two, this will lift teams such as us so when they moot the Super Dupe league again, there will be too many teams on a par with the chosen few to make calling which ones are selected more of a farce than it is now. 3 year euro ban should be the minimum

 

[arch stanton]

It already killed the game. That’s the reality we’re working with.

but this is perhaps the last opportunity to save the game, not to chase the buck.

 

[Tubey]

Please be true!! Suppose its one way for them to make money

I'd love it to be true but there's just no chance.