Confirmed Signing Cenk Tosun

CRIMHEAD · January 4, 2018

Nymzee said:
Yeh it's American as crap, hate it.

Can't help it, man. Been writing it forever. As an American. But duly noted.

Frang · January 4, 2018

Nymzee said:
Has Berahino ever scored? I think he's on minus goals by now.

@Mikey_Fitzgerald ???

MikeH72 · January 4, 2018

Nymzee said:
Was naming a potential top quality unknown signing since Moyes mate.

Definitely not top quality, if he's going to be in the future, who knows.

Jebus_lives · January 4, 2018

orly said:
But paid massively over the top (even by UK prices) for all of them, which rather proves my point.

Throw in Bolasie / Williams / Klaassen / Schneiderlin (sadly) and it shows I'm a 10 on the right-meter

We're sort of arguing the same point from different perspectives here.

If anything, by bringing up Williams, Bolasie and Schneiderlin it strengthens my point. You buy from the Premier League and you pay top dollar....

All of those players - on the face of it are good investments by the standards that seem to be espoused on this site.

Both stances seem to converge on the price for Tosun. It's high for a player within the context.

Toffeelover · January 4, 2018

orly said:
At least Jagielka will be happy then, he has a clause from the Moyes era (same as Neville had) that the captain should always be the highest earner. John Terry had it too

Take captaincy off him prior to selling him next week.

But as for Tosun, give him a chance folks.

Raino85 · January 4, 2018

Nymzee said:
Vlasic?

Honestly? How many other sides in the prem would Vlasic get into right now?

He looks ok, could end up good, but for now Vlasic could end up good or nothing

MikeH72 · January 4, 2018

Azza said:
So Barkley goes for ... £25m ... and we sign Tosun for ...

£27m

hmmm

When did that happen?

Nymzee · January 4, 2018

mikeh72 said:
Definitely not top quality, if he's going to be in the future, who knows.

Did you skip over the word potential there?

Same for @Raino85

Bungle · January 4, 2018

orly said:
At least Jagielka will be happy then, he has a clause from the Moyes era (same as Neville had) that the captain should always be the highest earner. John Terry had it too

I can't begrudge Jagielka £220k a week, sadly Farhad has lost his nerve and bowed down to the Turks demands and he's been absolutely bummed on the personal terms and transfer fee.

£27m rising to £64m after 12 appearances seems like schoolboy negotiating.

blueblue · January 4, 2018

orly said:
At least Jagielka will be happy then, he has a clause from the Moyes era (same as Neville had) that the captain should always be the highest earner. John Terry had it too

That was in an earlier contract, I doubt that it was included in his most recent one.

jceverton · January 4, 2018

bluestevon said:
Strikers start declining at 26? Better tell most managers mate, no one else thinks that.

Daniel Finkelstein did an analysis of this a few years back in The Times which showed the peak age for players by position. Forwards start declining from 26. He’s not the only one who has looked at this, see this analysis for example https://content.iospress.com/articles/journal-of-sports-analytics/jsa0021

BigDunc'sFod · January 4, 2018

CRIMHEAD said:
Well aware. What's your point?

That Keane being second fastest at Burnley means nothing when he looks like he's running knee deep in mud at Everton

bobafro · January 4, 2018

BigDunc'sFod said:
If Tosun had scored 31 goals in 38 appearances and we were a league winning and dominant side picking him up for £1.5m you may have a point

Huh? What has OGS' record got to do with anything here? I was answering the question of what age he was when he joined united.

My only point was that experience in this league doesn't count for as much as people seem to think - all transfers are risks (strikers being the biggest risk due to cost and the shear number of them that flop at ALL clubs).

I just don't get why any Everton supporter would be so negative about a new signing (albeit it's not complete just yet) before he even plays... the attitude comes across like the way a spoiled child would act when he only gets a PS4 for Christmas and not a PS4 PRO.

Toffeelover · January 4, 2018

mikeh72 said:
When did that happen?

It has not, stupid speculative post. Plus no one has enquired about him ATM which makes me think it will be near end of window hoping to drive price down.