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I have had so many issues in where I work mate and they couldn't be arsed supporting me in that do I am not sure how proactive they would be in helping me leave either sadly.

This jobs for the boys seems to be a lot more widespread than it seems. I know one day someone will take one look at me and just want to hand me the job there and then but it's finding that job. Not to sound arrogant but I genuinely am brilliant in work. Today alone I sold myself as someone who works alongside senior managers elsewhere, brought in more than one system (considering my level is a massive thing ) talked about qualifications that not even they would have and as someone who knew everything they were talking about. You can see why I'm a little down haha I shouldn't be in the job I'm in any more, I'm better than it. I don't say that as an arrogant thing, it's true. There is so much more I could be doing in my career yet I look around at where I am and see them all rotting away not planning on improving their situation and just feel that will be me in another 10 years

Might have spotted an issue here, you are coming across a bit arrogant and above the people you work with.

If this comes across that way in an interview, they would think twice about the team morale and how it would be affected.

Maybe, you are trying too hard to impress. Just relax and be calm.
 
I didn't get it.

In fact I didn't do anything wrong. They are going to speak to my line manager to get me experience shadowing someone because I impressed them so much.

Im Crushed. I genuinely don't know how much more I can do. I can't interview any better than I did today and they acknowledged that. Every person who gets the job before me has the experience. I can't get the experience without the job, my department won't give me a job and rig the interviews.

It sounds like the job was earmarked again for someone and I had no chance of getting it. But it kills me I have to go back to that job again knowing I am trapped there. The fact I will even have a qualification soon thst is for senior managers rather than my level and it won't count for anything. I have a qualification in staff mentoring and it counts for nothing. My experience is essentially project management over and over. Just because I haven't done the job in that place I'm unhirable apparently despite achieving so much and helped bring in a number of systems. I have done so much far beyond my job title and I even have qualifications to back it up and yet I just can't get anywhere.

Just gutted. Just feels like I am trapped now and I hung so much hope in today.

Nothing wrong with my interviews mate. In fact I can guarantee I interviewed better than anyone else today, seems like they wanted to give it to someone internal to them (again) and it just means anything I do, including bloody qualifications is meaningless. I mean the staff mentoring qualification I got, senior staff were on thst course, it wasn't for any old person it was for actually high up people to do.

That's why it's crushing. Two interviews barely a week apart and my interviews were fantastic. I genuinely can't interview any better than what I am.



I need the better job for the experience but can't get the experience without the job. I can't sell myself any more than what I am or do more. Never mind a glass ceiling it's starting to feel like a prison now so to speak. Most of the interviews thst come up seem to be ear marked, but I genuinely can't do more than what I am doing either. My qualifications I have got through work as mentioned above are actually high standard, much higher than my job role. I just need that one opportunity and I won't look back after that. I see jobs being handed to people all the time and I can't win, I'm always the next in line now, I can do this shadowing but how long will that take? How arsed are my managers going to be in helping me leave?

But yeah, just crushing that I can't do anything more. Plus it's the waiting game for another job to come along and to even get shortlisted for that or not. Could be months before I get another interview and for all I know it could end up the same way as today if someone just has departmental experience

I have had so many issues in where I work mate and they couldn't be arsed supporting me in that do I am not sure how proactive they would be in helping me leave either sadly.

This jobs for the boys seems to be a lot more widespread than it seems. I know one day someone will take one look at me and just want to hand me the job there and then but it's finding that job. Not to sound arrogant but I genuinely am brilliant in work. Today alone I sold myself as someone who works alongside senior managers elsewhere, brought in more than one system (considering my level is a massive thing ) talked about qualifications that not even they would have and as someone who knew everything they were talking about. You can see why I'm a little down haha I shouldn't be in the job I'm in any more, I'm better than it. I don't say that as an arrogant thing, it's true. There is so much more I could be doing in my career yet I look around at where I am and see them all rotting away not planning on improving their situation and just feel that will be me in another 10 years
Employers value experience when selecting candidates as it reduces risk. If the feedback you are getting is that you need experience then you need to accept this and do something about it.

Work experience, shadowing, putting your name forward to cover for absence (in your spare time if need be) will all give that reassurance to management that you could actually be trusted in the role.

It may frustrate but that's the real world I'm afraid.

Oh and you will be watched to see how you react to these setbacks so if you voice the comments and opinions in the work place that you have on here you may have shot yourself in the foot already so be careful.

Best of luck.
 
Nothing wrong with my interviews mate. In fact I can guarantee I interviewed better than anyone else today, seems like they wanted to give it to someone internal to them (again) and it just means anything I do, including bloody qualifications is meaningless. I mean the staff mentoring qualification I got, senior staff were on thst course, it wasn't for any old person it was for actually high up people to do.

That's why it's crushing. Two interviews barely a week apart and my interviews were fantastic. I genuinely can't interview any better than what I am.



I need the better job for the experience but can't get the experience without the job. I can't sell myself any more than what I am or do more. Never mind a glass ceiling it's starting to feel like a prison now so to speak. Most of the interviews thst come up seem to be ear marked, but I genuinely can't do more than what I am doing either. My qualifications I have got through work as mentioned above are actually high standard, much higher than my job role. I just need that one opportunity and I won't look back after that. I see jobs being handed to people all the time and I can't win, I'm always the next in line now, I can do this shadowing but how long will that take? How arsed are my managers going to be in helping me leave?

But yeah, just crushing that I can't do anything more. Plus it's the waiting game for another job to come along and to even get shortlisted for that or not. Could be months before I get another interview and for all I know it could end up the same way as today if someone just has departmental experience

You got any swimmy badges ?
 
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I didn't get it.

In fact I didn't do anything wrong. They are going to speak to my line manager to get me experience shadowing someone because I impressed them so much.

Im Crushed. I genuinely don't know how much more I can do. I can't interview any better than I did today and they acknowledged that. Every person who gets the job before me has the experience. I can't get the experience without the job, my department won't give me a job and rig the interviews.

It sounds like the job was earmarked again for someone and I had no chance of getting it. But it kills me I have to go back to that job again knowing I am trapped there. The fact I will even have a qualification soon thst is for senior managers rather than my level and it won't count for anything. I have a qualification in staff mentoring and it counts for nothing. My experience is essentially project management over and over. Just because I haven't done the job in that place I'm unhirable apparently despite achieving so much and helped bring in a number of systems. I have done so much far beyond my job title and I even have qualifications to back it up and yet I just can't get anywhere.

Just gutted. Just feels like I am trapped now and I hung so much hope in today.

Keep trying mate.
 
@Ashtonian Commiserations on not getting the job, but aren't you concentrating on the negative too much - if the interviewers want to speak to your line manager about shadowing, is this an indicator that the next time the job is a shoe-in for you?
Or am I just a born optimist?
I admit at this point that I have worked for myself for over 20 years and have no idea or grasp on office politics.
 
I didn't get it.

In fact I didn't do anything wrong. They are going to speak to my line manager to get me experience shadowing someone because I impressed them so much.

Im Crushed. I genuinely don't know how much more I can do. I can't interview any better than I did today and they acknowledged that. Every person who gets the job before me has the experience. I can't get the experience without the job, my department won't give me a job and rig the interviews.

It sounds like the job was earmarked again for someone and I had no chance of getting it. But it kills me I have to go back to that job again knowing I am trapped there. The fact I will even have a qualification soon thst is for senior managers rather than my level and it won't count for anything. I have a qualification in staff mentoring and it counts for nothing. My experience is essentially project management over and over. Just because I haven't done the job in that place I'm unhirable apparently despite achieving so much and helped bring in a number of systems. I have done so much far beyond my job title and I even have qualifications to back it up and yet I just can't get anywhere.

Just gutted. Just feels like I am trapped now and I hung so much hope in today.
From what I read I think it's best you use your time while currently employed to find another company to work for. It's easier to find a job when in a job and it's clear you don't like your current employer and little faith in them so sometimes it's best to just cut all ties and try somewhere new. There's a chance the new company will have a culture you like more.

Life is too short working for someone you resent and grasping at stuff you'll probably never achieve so find something new.
 
There is always thst option yeah. The problem is 2 months ago it wouod have been the same pay but now it would drop, then a few a years gaining experience there to start again.

Just one opportunity I need.

I know I'm cry arsing and I apologise. Just a little bit down after everything.

Would should certainly look for a new job. Same thing happened to me a few years ago, took a bit pay cut to get into another industry and four years on i am doing really well and probably earning more than I would have done if I didn't leave. Granted I didn't have a family or mortgage at the time.
 
Nothing wrong with my interviews mate. In fact I can guarantee I interviewed better than anyone else today, seems like they wanted to give it to someone internal to them (again) and it just means anything I do, including bloody qualifications is meaningless. I mean the staff mentoring qualification I got, senior staff were on thst course, it wasn't for any old person it was for actually high up people to do.

That's why it's crushing. Two interviews barely a week apart and my interviews were fantastic. I genuinely can't interview any better than what I am.



I need the better job for the experience but can't get the experience without the job. I can't sell myself any more than what I am or do more. Never mind a glass ceiling it's starting to feel like a prison now so to speak. Most of the interviews thst come up seem to be ear marked, but I genuinely can't do more than what I am doing either. My qualifications I have got through work as mentioned above are actually high standard, much higher than my job role. I just need that one opportunity and I won't look back after that. I see jobs being handed to people all the time and I can't win, I'm always the next in line now, I can do this shadowing but how long will that take? How arsed are my managers going to be in helping me leave?

But yeah, just crushing that I can't do anything more. Plus it's the waiting game for another job to come along and to even get shortlisted for that or not. Could be months before I get another interview and for all I know it could end up the same way as today if someone just has departmental experience

My experience, fwiw, on the hiring side of the desk ..

If someone's interviewed really well, and has ticked all the other boxes for a job, but that job was destined all along for someone else, then I would actively ( not reactively ) make sure that the person who interviewed well, knew they'd done well, and, when an appropriate post came vacant, I would contact that person to make sure they applied.

Unless new jobs / promotions are few and far between, then I'd expect such a post to come up within six months, twelve months max. If you've been interviewed twice recently in your current company, and no-one actively contacts you to tell you to apply for post <a> in a twelve month period then one of the following almost certainly applies :-

a ) Your face doesn't fit and never will
b ) You're overestimating how good you are

Either way, it's probably not the right company for you and you need to move, even if it's only a sideways move. If it's (a), moving is defo the only way forward, if it's (b) and the cycle repeats, then it's probably you.
 
Nothing wrong with my interviews mate. In fact I can guarantee I interviewed better than anyone else today, seems like they wanted to give it to someone internal to them (again) and it just means anything I do, including bloody qualifications is meaningless. I mean the staff mentoring qualification I got, senior staff were on thst course, it wasn't for any old person it was for actually high up people to do.

That's why it's crushing. Two interviews barely a week apart and my interviews were fantastic. I genuinely can't interview any better than what I am.



I need the better job for the experience but can't get the experience without the job. I can't sell myself any more than what I am or do more. Never mind a glass ceiling it's starting to feel like a prison now so to speak. Most of the interviews thst come up seem to be ear marked, but I genuinely can't do more than what I am doing either. My qualifications I have got through work as mentioned above are actually high standard, much higher than my job role. I just need that one opportunity and I won't look back after that. I see jobs being handed to people all the time and I can't win, I'm always the next in line now, I can do this shadowing but how long will that take? How arsed are my managers going to be in helping me leave?

But yeah, just crushing that I can't do anything more. Plus it's the waiting game for another job to come along and to even get shortlisted for that or not. Could be months before I get another interview and for all I know it could end up the same way as today if someone just has departmental experience
That is a ridiculous statement.
 
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